MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2661 Post by EspressoPatronum » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:56 pm

##vote Kalel

Case incoming in an hour or so once I'm back.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2662 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:02 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:54 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:33 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:28 pm


Look at it fmpv.

I know I'm town, so voting literally anyone else (except maybe xorxes and Jamie) is better than dying. If I need to follow a case on the next highest wagon to survive, I'll do so happily.
Let's say you accept your death and you put a critical eye on it...

Who are the four scum and who is the SK?
Scum is in Vapor, Kalel, yuuki, Maniac, and maybe rdr if I'm wrong on one of the others.

I haven't really bothered with the SK, but we could probably find them by looking at people who included a new top scum read after N1 (read: they know who Gamora is + would want to scumcase Gamora to get the soul stone)
Gamora may be untouchable (i.e. me or Kitsune--I mean, I dunno why nobody thinks I'm SK, but it's cool with me)

I'm still waiting for a convincing case on Maniac.

I'm still waiting for same on yuuki.

Kalel I'm ready to hear one as soon as anybody does the legwork.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2663 Post by foodcoats » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:04 pm

Thanks for the reads Maniac.

Maniac and EP, not sure how likely rdr can ever be scum. The reaction to brain's fake track suggests rivera knew it was 100% a lie because rdr has no night action. All scum have night actions though. So scum!rdr probably moved.

UNLESS oh shit forgot this before rdr could be ninjer.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2664 Post by Vaporwave » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:08 pm

Found him, guys! His partner :-)

I have discovered more palpable evidence in regards to a teammate of Espresso

I know who he is, but I'll keep it quiet until I get my Espresso flip

Sweet truths right in front of us, I'm smiling brightly at the sky :-D

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2665 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:11 pm

Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:08 pm
Found him, guys! His partner :-)

I have discovered more palpable evidence in regards to a teammate of Espresso

I know who he is, but I'll keep it quiet until I get my Espresso flip

Sweet truths right in front of us, I'm smiling brightly at the sky :-D
Fuck you!

Give me some pages to look at. Posts to draw my conclusions. SOMETHING YOU Sanctimonious so and so!

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2666 Post by Vaporwave » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:12 pm

No, I can't mess things up, BG

Remember bomb's saying 'never put the cart before the horse'

Firstly, we need to see if he's a scumbo

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2667 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:13 pm

sulit wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:39 pm
Wait what the heck that was night
Townslip?

I know I know...sulit said no such thing

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2668 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:17 pm

Kitsune wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:16 pm
Rest in peace Meeps!

I shall always have a silky nest for you.

HONOUR ROLL - LEST WE FORGET:

D1 - Worcej - https://tenor.com/view/dancing-spiderma ... f-13610990
D1 - Bozo - https://tenor.com/view/groot-avengers-c ... if-9010858
N1 - EMC - https://tenor.com/view/the-question-fac ... f-10794918
Following up on Brain's theory that Kit may have signaled he received an item and asked to be off-worlded.

Looking for code. If it is mature enough to request off worlding, there must be other things in it too.

What is "Meeps" (Kit and EMC had referred to silky meeps before)

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2669 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:18 pm

Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:12 pm
No, I can't mess things up, BG

Remember bomb's saying 'never put the cart before the horse'

Firstly, we need to see if he's a scumbo
And when he flips town, does your theory have a conclusion then?

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#2670 Post by Maniac » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:19 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:52 pm
I just remembered Maniac counterclaiming vig... maybe not scum actually.

@Maniac what are your current reads?
You’ve just remembered me Cc Vig? That was quite a story. I came back from the dead, that only happens every 2000 years or so.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2671 Post by Vaporwave » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:20 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:18 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:12 pm
No, I can't mess things up, BG

Remember bomb's saying 'never put the cart before the horse'

Firstly, we need to see if he's a scumbo
And when he flips town, does your theory have a conclusion then?
Don't worry about it, it's me who has to prove stuff and quote posts, you will be shocked at my discovery :razz:

But only if he flips scum and I think there's a fat chance we caught him.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2672 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:21 pm

Rocket Raccoon (Item Smith)

You are Rocket Raccoon aka “Rabbit”! You are the town item smith! Each night, until you run out of items, you may visit a player and that player will receive a random item from your item pool. Items in your item pool are immune to the item thief. You may target yourself, you may not give an item to the same person twice in a row. Your item pool at the beginning of the game is 1. Hadron Enforcer (one shot gun) 2. Cybernetic Eye (one shot cop scan) 3. Bottle of blue liquid (one shot role block) 4. Holographic Spacesuit (one shot armor, only good for shots not NK’s) 5. Aero-Rig (one shot “commute” (leave the game for a phase, see time stone for rules)) 6. Some guys prosthetic leg (has no use, but is still an item) Each day you may vote on who to lynch. You win when all foes opposing the town have been eliminated.
[\quote]

##CALL GM Does Rocket Raccoon know what item he gave?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2673 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:21 pm

Rocket Raccoon (Item Smith)

You are Rocket Raccoon aka “Rabbit”! You are the town item smith! Each night, until you run out of items, you may visit a player and that player will receive a random item from your item pool. Items in your item pool are immune to the item thief. You may target yourself, you may not give an item to the same person twice in a row. Your item pool at the beginning of the game is 1. Hadron Enforcer (one shot gun) 2. Cybernetic Eye (one shot cop scan) 3. Bottle of blue liquid (one shot role block) 4. Holographic Spacesuit (one shot armor, only good for shots not NK’s) 5. Aero-Rig (one shot “commute” (leave the game for a phase, see time stone for rules)) 6. Some guys prosthetic leg (has no use, but is still an item) Each day you may vote on who to lynch. You win when all foes opposing the town have been eliminated.
##CALL GM Does Rocket Raccoon know what item he gave?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2674 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:23 pm

Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:20 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:18 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:12 pm
No, I can't mess things up, BG

Remember bomb's saying 'never put the cart before the horse'

Firstly, we need to see if he's a scumbo
And when he flips town, does your theory have a conclusion then?
Don't worry about it, it's me who has to prove stuff and quote posts, you will be shocked at my discovery :razz:

But only if he flips scum and I think there's a fat chance we caught him.
:? A theory is useless if it can't stand up to the light. If there's no conclusion in the contrapositive case, then I'm skeptical that it's worth listening to.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2675 Post by Chaqa » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Maniac wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:41 pm
My thoughts
Bozotheclown – RIP VT TOWN – Lynched D1
brainbomb – RIP Item Thief – VIG Shot D2
BunnyGo – He is looking more obv town and I’m not just saying that as he is my biggest defender
Chaqa – I had thought Rdr and Chaqa’s reactions to Brainbomb were scum being really pissed off with scum teammate Brainbomb, but obv that doesn’t make sense now. Town
damo666 – Don’t like his d1 voting. People need to make decisions at EOD between leading wagons.
dargo – someone else who has wasted their vote d1. That said I now have a town feel about him
e.m.c^42 – Town
EspressoPatronum – Would make a good lynch today as his wagon grew quickly D1 and then evaporated. Many people scum reading him today.
foodcoats – Going to say town as he wants me to give people town reads
Foxcastle – says he had a RB, no reason to disbelieve but it doesn’t clear him
Jamiet99uk – Vig who needs coffee before he gets obv jokes
KalelChase – Think he has town slipped by including EMC in his reads.
Kitsune – seems uncertain about things including his bozo vote. It could be he is scum and knew bozo would flip town. If BB did transport him as seems likely it doesn’t clear him.
Look at this post for uncertainty “Scum:
Bozo - On reconsidering... I think I'm actually putting Bozo here now. Combination of the two heuristics, he seems to go from keeping a low profile for long periods of time to pushing his four-row agenda and trying to enlist an increasing number of the players into subscribing to his meta for the game. Maybe he's right? I'm not sure I trust him at this point. Maybe he'll up his clarity later as players who know him better are suggesting.” Full of maybes, ‘I think’; ‘On reconsidering’; and ‘I’m not sure’.

Maniac – Handsome as ever
ND/Sulit – Sulit seems to be scum hunting without making strong cases
Nephthys – Still hasn’t made an impression on me. Was on Bozo early and stayed there. Null
rdrivera2005 – My top SCUM read. Look at this on pg 118 “It's probably Brain fake claiming just because no one seems to take his push on me seriously and he wants to be sure I am dead so he can show how marvelous he is.” So how does Brainbomb look marvellous if rdrivera flips Town? Brainbomb ONLY looks marvellous if Rdrivera is scum. I asked rdrivera to explain hours ago and despite being online since then hasn’t provided me with an answer ##vote rdrivera
Temasek22 – still hasn’t made an impression on me. Maybe I just subconsciously agree with him and tune him out. Will iso him when I have time.
Vaporwave – Another ND voter who says he only joined that wagon to save Bozo. He actually had read ND as a bad boy, but seemed to have forgotten that. Suspect and maybe scum. My read hasn’t changed since I last posted
worcej – RIP VT TOWN – shot D1
xorxes – Mislead me into thinking he was scum. Confirmed Town
Yuuki – Still MIA
TL;DR – Scum Rdrivera, vaporwave, Kitsure Serial Killer no idea
Obv town – BunnyGo and Kalal
Happy to answer questions about my play as it seems I’m scum read by a few people
I love this reads list. I do disagree about Vapor, but I admit he is buddying me a bit and it's working for now lol... otherwise, Maniac is jumping back into my core town.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2676 Post by Chaqa » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:26 pm

Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:12 pm
No, I can't mess things up, BG

Remember bomb's saying 'never put the cart before the horse'

Firstly, we need to see if he's a scumbo
Just reveal the info. Don't hold out.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2677 Post by xorxes » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:27 pm

@Maniac, re: your case on rivera.

I noticed the same thing you did when I first read it. I dismissed it almost instantly because rivera is not a native speaker and it's quite obvious what he meant to say even if he did not include all the ifs and woulds that would have made it more clear.

It is possible that rivera is scum, but his reaction to brain was extremely towny. Of course, if he was any scum other than the roleblocker he would have known for sure that brain was lying (@food: none of the other scum would have visited Fox), but even then if that was the case he put a very good show. I'm pretty sure at the moment that rivera is not mafia.

Your case on rivera is similar to the one you made against BG on day 1. You pick one small detail that can arguably be said to be scummy but you ignore everything else they have done.

@Maniac, a general question for you: are you enjoying this game so far or do you find it something of a burden?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2678 Post by xorxes » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:32 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:21 pm

##CALL GM Does Rocket Raccoon know what item he gave?
Usually they don't. It's random and they are not trold. Also, brain made it clear he did not know.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2679 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:43 pm

OK, I see sulit, maniac, and food here. Gimme something.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2680 Post by foodcoats » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:50 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:43 pm
OK, I see sulit, maniac, and food here. Gimme something.
Yeah it's too quiet for my liking.

Let's say EP and Maniac are both town. Where are the scum?

Quick look at the bot...

Tem, dargo and damo jump at me

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