MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[ItsHosuke]

Well some of us have IRL stuff, Rivera.

Fully agreed

[xorxes]

##vote Xorxes for 3rd party claim.

Do you believe I'm 3rd party and want to lynch the 3rd party?

Or you don't believe the claim and you think I'm scum pretending to be 3rd party?

Or you don't believe the claim and your bet was that we would lynch town today?

[ItsHosuke]

So here we are now, 2 fallen townies already.

No, sadly I am not playing any noobie card, I am trying my best. Clearly, not enough I see.

I still think my initial vote was right, and Vapor is not town. I still consider yuuki and Jamie or Ike persons of interest.
But not much reading ability from me, I agree, I am, in fact, at my first game.

I feel you, man.

[rdrivera2005]

Well some of us have IRL stuff, Rivera.

Yes, and I fully believe you have one. But you even admitted on Mafia QT last game (I had a lot of time to read it being NK N2) you were using your RL events to justify your lurking and coasting.

So why is this a problem when Chaqa does it, but youre totally fine when Damo does it? While Damo is also much more quiet and timid as scum, plenty of times.

Damo knows hes an easy townread when town. He's also fairly often pretty obvious as scum. If he has an important scum PR, isnt this exactly how youd expect damo to act as well?

I am not totally fine with Damo doing it, he isn't obvtown like in other games, but like you said he is also usually obvscum.
You might have some reason about scum PR, but the same can be said for town PR or even third party.

[rdrivera2005]

Well some of us have IRL stuff, Rivera.

Fully agreed

Ok, I am done.

##vote Hosuke so you have time for real life issues.

[Vecna]

A very quick update before I'm getting my hand dirty with ISOing various peeps:

From remembrance, from past times, oh sweet loving memories

Strong town
Neph
Vecna
yuuki

Town..ish
Damo
RHK
e.m.c
Percy
rivera
Temasek
worcej

Null doesn't equal cool
Chaqa
Rage

Scams
Carambola
Hosuke
xorxes

Explain how Damo is townish

[rdrivera2005]

I'm actually feeling pretty confident that the scumteam is something like Vapor, Rivera, Tem, Damo, {Carambola/Neph/worcej}, with xorxes as a 3P.

@Vecna, Ike, RHK, others - thoughts on Vapor?

Yes, me, Vapor and Damo and I am defending both. You are really brilliant.

[rdrivera2005]

So here we are now, 2 fallen townies already.

No, sadly I am not playing any noobie card, I am trying my best. Clearly, not enough I see.

I still think my initial vote was right, and Vapor is not town. I still consider yuuki and Jamie or Ike persons of interest.
But not much reading ability from me, I agree, I am, in fact, at my first game.

I feel you, man.

Can you explain on your own words why you think Vapor is scum?

[ItsHosuke]

So here we are now, 2 fallen townies already.

No, sadly I am not playing any noobie card, I am trying my best. Clearly, not enough I see.

I still think my initial vote was right, and Vapor is not town. I still consider yuuki and Jamie or Ike persons of interest.
But not much reading ability from me, I agree, I am, in fact, at my first game.

I feel you, man.

Can you explain on your own words why you think Vapor is scum?

I personally doubt Vapor is scum. I was replying to the second paragraph

[ItsHosuke]

A very quick update before I'm getting my hand dirty with ISOing various peeps:

From remembrance, from past times, oh sweet loving memories

Strong town
Neph
Vecna
yuuki

Town..ish
Damo
RHK
e.m.c
Percy
rivera
Temasek
worcej

Null doesn't equal cool
Chaqa
Rage

Scams
Carambola
Hosuke
xorxes

Scam? Ouch

[Vaporwave]

damo is so disinterested and taken over by real life issue that he won't even look at any of us, not even 1 glare

I think he's got OFG problems, I'm hoping things will sort out for him and we'll get to fully enjoy him in the 2nd part of D2

[Chaqa]

I'm actually feeling pretty confident that the scumteam is something like Vapor, Rivera, Tem, Damo, {Carambola/Neph/worcej}, with xorxes as a 3P.

@Vecna, Ike, RHK, others - thoughts on Vapor?

Yes, me, Vapor and Damo and I am defending both. You are really brilliant.

I think pretty highly of myself. That said, it's Day 2, so I'm likely ay off base on a lot of things.

[e.m.c^42]

It's D2. If there is a 1% chance of Vapor being scum, that means there is a 99% chance of him being town. That is as sure as you can get of anything on D2. He is as good as cleared town for now. If he survives a few more nights that may change as there is no legit reason why scum would leave a cleared townie alive for long (other than his reads being absolute crap).

The only thing weird about Vapor is that he posted before the GM posted the night results, which means he already knew he was not going to die. There are different explanations for why that may be the case, and as you say, it will get resolved.

?
Are you baiting or something lol (since this seems like a completely useless detail to focus/comment on. As in, I agree with the sentiment behind it, but all the posting means is that the GM did or didn't send a death notice? not quite sure about the weird part

[Vaporwave]

didn't like the following when it comes to xorxes:

his policy vote on emc, policy borrowed from Foxy, that vote from xorxes had every purpose but finding scum

his doubling down on his emc vote telling me that it might work this time

he says to rivera that his purpose is to find out if emc is town or scum, however his reason for vote is clearly based on NAI reason aka emc's voting style

voted for Prado later

him not doing anything with his claim (my theory is that xorxes is scum confident that his buddy Commodus will save his wagon)

it's weak sauce, the stuff presented by xorxes D1, N1 is skimmed milk

his quote about Chaqa and his bias for emc isn't ground-breaking


town xorxes is NEVER THIS LIMP

[Temasek22]

Right now I Town read Jamiet, Raging Ike, and Vapour.
Temask has this vibe of just coasting, without feeling the need to try. I'm not sure if he has confidence in Town, is comfortable with scum team guidance or just always has that vibe.
@Itshosuke: Does Temask always have that vibe?

Do I give out that vibe? Idk, but I have more confidence in the rest of you compared to myself, as I know nearly zero of the meta

[xorxes]

It's D2. If there is a 1% chance of Vapor being scum, that means there is a 99% chance of him being town. That is as sure as you can get of anything on D2. He is as good as cleared town for now. If he survives a few more nights that may change as there is no legit reason why scum would leave a cleared townie alive for long (other than his reads being absolute crap).

The only thing weird about Vapor is that he posted before the GM posted the night results, which means he already knew he was not going to die. There are different explanations for why that may be the case, and as you say, it will get resolved.

?
Are you baiting or something lol (since this seems like a completely useless detail to focus/comment on. As in, I agree with the sentiment behind it, but all the posting means is that the GM did or didn't send a death notice? not quite sure about the weird part

If he was jailed, he was not allowed to post at night. If he had died in jail, he would not be allowed to post next day either. He posted before the GM announced who had died, therefore he knew before the GM's post that he would not die. There are several explanations for how he could have known that.

[Vaporwave]

Every game it happens and I really don't think this one will have an exception

[yuuki]

The only thing weird about Vapor is that he posted before the GM posted the night results, which means he already knew he was not going to die. There are different explanations for why that may be the case, and as you say, it will get resolved.

?
Are you baiting or something lol (since this seems like a completely useless detail to focus/comment on. As in, I agree with the sentiment behind it, but all the posting means is that the GM did or didn't send a death notice? not quite sure about the weird part

If he was jailed, he was not allowed to post at night. If he had died in jail, he would not be allowed to post next day either. He posted before the GM announced who had died, therefore he knew before the GM's post that he would not die. There are several explanations for how he could have known that.

True, but this will get sorted in due time.

[xorxes]

?
Are you baiting or something lol (since this seems like a completely useless detail to focus/comment on. As in, I agree with the sentiment behind it, but all the posting means is that the GM did or didn't send a death notice? not quite sure about the weird part

If he was jailed, he was not allowed to post at night. If he had died in jail, he would not be allowed to post next day either. He posted before the GM announced who had died, therefore he knew before the GM's post that he would not die. There are several explanations for how he could have known that.

True, but this will get sorted in due time.

Exactly.

[Vaporwave]

True, but this will get sorted in due time.

xorxes concentrating on the timing of my posting before D2 is not great either.

I will say that posting before D2 wasn't supposed to happen and I'm sorry for that to GMs

Pls don't speculate when I received private messages, xorxes