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Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:48 am
by Durga
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:39 am
ghug wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:42 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:38 pm
Can someone who is an expert in damo summarize his town play for me pls
He's so authentically casual about the weird shit he says, and his thought processes seem very legitimate.
I don't find it weird or shit but fair enough.
Durga, sorry for my angry response to you. I don't like being called dumb. I prefer to play civilly.
Whatever, just give me reasons as to why you think the things you think. Not just weird numbers and sequences
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:50 am
by ghug
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:12 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:18 pm
Squigs44 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:06 pm
Alright I'm confused. Why didn't I die?
Because 1/2 < 6/7.
Scum knew RHK was town and therefore the obvious assumption for them is to assume his PR claim was truthful.
If RHK doc hes saves self, if obs then doc saves Squigs. So attempting a NK on RHK or Squigs would have a 50% chance of success. Targetting anyone else almost certain to be not doc saved so only box holding could protect giving a 6/7 chance of success.
It was therefore blindingly obvious scum would not target Squigs.
This is why in my end of night post I said I would be confident of Squigs survival to today.
Don't they have a driver?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:55 am
by Durga
Clearly it is a 30-time-use driver
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am
by Foxcastle
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:04 am
"If there are no more items in the Box to draw at the start of the Night Phase, it explodes at the end of the Night Phase and kills the player holding it."
##CALL GM: Does this mean that if the box is empty at the beginning of the night, the box receiver will be holding the box when it explodes, whether the box sender performs a list or tries to take another item?
##GM NOTE: there is a necessary clarification, the rule should read, "If there are no more items in the Box to draw
or List options to request at the start of the Night Phase, it explodes at the end of the Night Phase and kills the player holding it."
If there are no more items, but there is a list option, the player can request the list option and not be explored. If there is a list option and the player takes when there are no items, then the box explodes.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:10 am
by rdrivera2005
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:20 am
RHK should you take? 2/3 chance of item. Better than list which seems revealed anyway.
And I would pass it to a scumread rather than a borderline.
I do not understand rdrivera's post.
##vote rdrivera
What exactly you don't understand Damo? I didn't use numbers?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:19 am
by damo666
ghug wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:50 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:12 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:18 pm
Because 1/2 < 6/7.
Scum knew RHK was town and therefore the obvious assumption for them is to assume his PR claim was truthful.
If RHK doc hes saves self, if obs then doc saves Squigs. So attempting a NK on RHK or Squigs would have a 50% chance of success. Targetting anyone else almost certain to be not doc saved so only box holding could protect giving a 6/7 chance of success.
It was therefore blindingly obvious scum would not target Squigs.
This is why in my end of night post I said I would be confident of Squigs survival to today.
Don't they have a driver?
If driver not exhausted. And if so drive who?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:21 am
by damo666
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:10 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:20 am
RHK should you take? 2/3 chance of item. Better than list which seems revealed anyway.
And I would pass it to a scumread rather than a borderline.
I do not understand rdrivera's post.
##vote rdrivera
What exactly you don't understand Damo? I didn't use numbers?
Why would demonRHK issue a fake list?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:40 am
by bozotheclown
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:04 am
"If there are no more items in the Box to draw at the start of the Night Phase, it explodes at the end of the Night Phase and kills the player holding it."
##CALL GM: Does this mean that if the box is empty at the beginning of the night, the box receiver will be holding the box when it explodes, whether the box sender performs a list or tries to take another item?
##GM NOTE: there is a necessary clarification, the rule should read, "If there are no more items in the Box to draw
or List options to request at the start of the Night Phase, it explodes at the end of the Night Phase and kills the player holding it."
If there are no more items, but there is a list option, the player can request the list option and not be explored. If there is a list option and the player takes when there are no items, then the box explodes.
OK, so this means if DemonRHK performs a list and gives the box, the box receiver is guaranteed not to be killed, so the box can be used tonight as a save. Even if Balki performed a list for some reason and there is only one list available, because that would mean there is still one item in the box.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:22 am
by ghug
Wait, it only explodes when you try to take an item when there aren't any left, not when you take the last item?
##CALLGM
If the box is going to explode, is it the person who holds it going into the night, or the person they send it to that dies?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:44 am
by Foxcastle
ghug wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:22 am
##CALLGM
If the box is going to explode, is it the person who holds it going into the night, or the person they send it to that dies?
The person holding the box during the day, going into the night, dies when it explodes. Per the order of operations, the box explodes before it can be delivered.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:50 am
by bozotheclown
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:44 am
ghug wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:22 am
##CALLGM
If the box is going to explode, is it the person who holds it going into the night, or the person they send it to that dies?
The person holding the box during the day, going into the night, dies when it explodes. Per the order of operations, the box explodes before it can be delivered.
This is not how I was interpreting it. I think "it explodes at the end of the Night Phase" sounds like after the box has been received. So, DemonRHK is safe tonight if he performs a list, but whoever he passes the box to could get killed by the box the next night.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:54 am
by bo_sox48
This game is boring
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:07 am
by bo_sox48
Post #2
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:08 am
by bo_sox48
##VOTE ND
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:38 am
by Durga
Come on, if you're town at least try
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:41 am
by bo_sox48
I did I got a miller yaaay
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:31 am
by Squigs44
##vote ghug
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:49 am
by rdrivera2005
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:21 am
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:10 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:20 am
RHK should you take? 2/3 chance of item. Better than list which seems revealed anyway.
And I would pass it to a scumread rather than a borderline.
I do not understand rdrivera's post.
##vote rdrivera
What exactly you don't understand Damo? I didn't use numbers?
Why would demonRHK issue a fake list?
If he is scum he will obviously issue a fake read list and a fake Observer list to probably out our PRs. Of course, if he is really the Observer, the list is real, but is still pretty bad.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:15 pm
by damo666
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:49 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:21 am
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:10 am
What exactly you don't understand Damo? I didn't use numbers?
Why would demonRHK issue a fake list?
If he is scum he will obviously issue a fake read list and a fake Observer list to probably out our PRs. Of course, if he is really the Observer, the list is real, but is still pretty bad.
In the absence of a counter claim surely the assumption must be RHK is genuine.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:22 pm
by damo666
Given box development s RHK should probably list to ensure survival this leaves doc free to save someone else (Squigs? self?).
There is half chance of 2 lists and 2/3 chance of more items so only 1/6 chance of next recipient being killed. So perhaps RHK should send to a townie but not a doc possibility.