Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Chaqa]

Worcej and Rivera haven’t done anything noteworthy yet.

[Chaqa]

Still kinda Sus of Kak moving off fish

[Kakarroto]

reactions/mentions of lfischl:
jamie: 5 - 1 explaining the squawk, 1 asking absentness + asking sub out, 1 declaring willingness to vote lfischl, 1 vote lflischl, 1 explaining current vote balance
ghug: 1 and a half - 1 quote (no opinion in 40 posts), 1 quoting fox concerning flashwagons
Bona: 5 and a half - 5 quotes (asking about vecna; answering; joke?advice?; coast rivalry; asking about his ghug/jamie relation comment; ), 1 quote celaph (asking him why he is ignoring him while answering a lfischl question from Bob)
fox: 7 and a half - 1 (want to hear more from lfischl), 3 quote (questions about others; more questions, about Bona; questions about games played), 2 votes, 1 quote Kakarroto (answering read question which contained lfischl), 1 callgm about lfischls fate if no vote
celaph: 8 - 2 quotes (jamie/ghug situation; SQUAWK/answering or commenting to worcej), 1 asking Bob (saying lfischl feels like typical lfischl), 1 declaring vote intentions (lfischl is kinda there and kinda not), 1 contesting worcejs read on lfischl, 1 tells Kakarroto to look up lfischls play from M67, 1 comment on lfischl wagon (thinks town, isn't opposed due to absence), 1 vote (doesn't want a tie)
Kakarroto: 12 - 2 theory, 1 maf pool, 1 question (why so low posting), 1 quote (squawk related plus questions), 1 monologue (questioning status quo plus where is lfischl), 1 joke ("Currently, I think something is fishy, and I'm not sure if it is lfischl or not." - gosh, did I really type that?), 1 readings (lfischl creepy mafia?), 1 connection (asking bob's vote on lischl bussing?), 1 vote, 2 last minute (no tie)
Bob: 4 - 1 encouraging opinions, 1 quote (thought about ghug/jamie situation), 1 answering 'gun targets (would flip lfischl or worcej because lurker), 1 vote
Vecna: 2 - 1 quote (ghug = maf joke), 1 secret code (says it's for his mafia buddy lfischl)
maniac: 1- 1 vote
rd: 0
worcej: 1 - 1 comment "question about squawk seems weird)

Hmm ... hmm ... this list is btw from highest to lowest poster. I find it a bit surprising that ghug only has one post of his 66 mentioning lfischl (the half post is from the text fox posted but didn't comment), even when lfischl stated his "ghug/jamie situation" that they are opposed roles/factions.

Kinda feel maniac and rd have too few lfischl mentions but then again, they are on the low end of the post spectrum with 20 and 11 on D1.

Big question is too, how do I feel about this possible joke/possible taunt of Vecna for his secret code to this mafia buddy lfischl ...

Also whooa, some posts while I did this, yeah!

[Kakarroto]

Worcej and Rivera haven’t done anything noteworthy yet.

I have the impression rd did help in some question though, but you might call that not noteworthy.

Still kinda Sus of Kak moving off fish

Watashi wa sussy baka desu ne.

[Vecna]

I think youre reading that code-thing out of context kak

[Kakarroto]

I think youre reading that code-thing out of context kak

Well probably, since I've read each of these in isolation on the bot for each individual so I don't miss any. I give it a very high chance of being just nothing of substance, didn't want to leave it out though.

[ghug]

i fucken hate this post

Why?

it subtly throws shade of vecna in a no good and very bad way

It's not subtle? I'm pointing out something scummy.

[ghug]

If I just got punked by Ghug ill be pretty salty

Ha ha. Made you participate.

[ghug]

I'm a bit lost. Thinking of the progress in the next days, we have only 2 misskills. So thinking from that point, we have 4 chances to catch mafia.

I would like everyone to think about that and ask you to visualise the 4 players you think are most likely mafia. You don't have to say that in the thread, you can keep that for yourself. I'm sure that some of these would change depending on who mafia is going to nk anyway.

Maybe you don't need this advice, but I'm currently big unsure about most of my reads and maybe that's just some advice for myself. But if that helps anyone, please, be my guest and use it. But I'm not feeling a good person to vote just right now and I feel like that's wasted time for town.

I'll share because I want to: ghug, Chaqa, rdr, Bona.

Rdr I can see, but I would be against voting him out soon. I've gotten good vibes from some of his posts and nothing overly scummy.

Would you say you're good at reading Rd?

[Kakarroto]

Anyway, I don't think that there will be anyone else answering for my post below.

So, I've been thinking (no, please, sit down again, no need to flee the building). Why would mafia choose to nk fox?

1) He is a very good player and mafia is afraid of him.
2) He had someone in his reads/pushes that is mafia and they want to eliminate people voting for that person.
3) He had someone in his reads/pushes that is town and they want to miskill someone by obfuscating that.
4) Mafia read his behaviour as PR and prioritised him over others.
5) Mafia threw a coin or dice and it landed fox.
6) Mafia are a bunch of animal/furry hater.
7) More than one of the above. (please with further information)
8) Other than any of the above. (please with further information)
9) Kak you should stop you know exactly why we did it.

Other than that, I would also like to hear your ideas of why mafia would choose fox over yourself.

Here the answers:

On your list I would say 1 and 4 are possible. I would add he was the biggest townread around with how flischl wagon evolved (he and Maniac, maybe).

I don't remember scummy killing someone because of reads on N1.

id say 1 and/or 4 are most likely
2 is also reasonable
or i suppose 9 if youre the mafia which i currently doubt

I'd agree with this take.

4 more than anything.

As a member of town, I was picking up 'Fox is a PR or scum' vibes based on how he was playing. He's fairly easy to read for me.

Can you point towards where you got those vibes? I'm curious what I missed.

I'm a bit sad that not more people contributed, but it is what it is.

Personally, the most likely reason is the one that rd mentioned on 'highest overall townread'. I left that option out of it to see if I'm biased in this direction or not.

I never saw anything that would direct for fox being a PR, even on reread I was wondering 'how the eff' maf would guess that. A bit surprised that option 4 was so readily chosen.

I also like to ask worcej: please point out the post where you would say "alright, that's it, fox is PR" or, in case it isn't a single post, please explain further why you are so sure about that.

Something to note: I remember, in reference to studies, hearing somewhere 'people like to choose from prepared choices', like there is some bias for something that is close enough but not actuall fully how they see things. I wonder how much this played part here in your choosing.

[ghug]

I think I'm content to just let you guys flip me and then use it as yet another example of how bad everyone is at reading me and mafia in general.

Man, I was liking the unexplained read evolution and then you go and say this?

[Kakarroto]

I nearly forgot while I was lost in thought about your posts: thank you four in participating in my questionnaire. I'm hopeful this information will be useful in the coming days.

[Kakarroto]

@Bob
@celaph

can you come here and vote for maniac please?

@Vecna
@Bona

would you change your vote to rd? Or if that's not possible, Vecna could you change your vote to celaph?

That way we would have 5 strong players all tied with 2 votes. Lets play a game of chicken and race those wagons into the direction of the cliff! Ohh, the wagonomics!

[Kakarroto]

Lets play a game of chicken and race those wagons into the direction of the cliff!

Race with the Devil!!! *more epic guituar solos*

[Kakarroto]

I could offer myself instead but I'm not sure if I'm a strong enough player.

[Chaqa]

I think I'm content to just let you guys flip me and then use it as yet another example of how bad everyone is at reading me and mafia in general.

Man, I was liking the unexplained read evolution and then you go and say this?

Maybe some voting me as a meme. It's not fun and it got old 4 years ago.

[ghug]

I think I'm content to just let you guys flip me and then use it as yet another example of how bad everyone is at reading me and mafia in general.

Man, I was liking the unexplained read evolution and then you go and say this?

Maybe some voting me as a meme. It's not fun and it got old 4 years ago.

You subbed into a scummy slot. I think you know better than to think the votes are all about you.

[Vecna]

also, im expecting some result of all that stewing

[Chaqa]

also, im expecting some result of all that stewing

A good stew takes several hours

[ghug]

also, im expecting some result of all that stewing

A good stew takes several hours

I bet Chaqa's a mole connoisseur.