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Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm**

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.

I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:30 pm**

Also bozo is probably just town but I still despise this survey

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:30 pm**

@Sabi how did your interview go?

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:33 pm**

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:30 pm
@Sabi how did your interview go?

It went fine I think. There's three more interviews to go for this position.

Thank you for asking.

I did notice while reading thru eod that you are sussing me.

Explain

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:34 pm**

Well, that didn’t go well. RIP worcej.

Here is what happened.
I played this game so far exactly how I play every game, imo. I don’t argue, push, prod, annoy, or reaction test much. I do sit back and watch.

It often gets me DKed, but I am who I am. (I play this way in my weekly RL ftf games, too.)

So… as the short day went on there was a growing push on me. I did not want to die, but I also didn’t want to be outed to stay alive.

As I said earlier, the other wagons weren’t satisfactory to me, and brain seems scum. Lots of OMGUS, I admit. But a bit more, I already wrote about that.

As the day went on, and the EoD approached, and I was busy cooking for a crowd, I decided I would crumb… big and obvious, to me. I particularly thought brain, fellow Comic Guy, would notice the reference to Stephen Strange, Sorceror Supreme (and not a doctor. I would have gone Doc Holiday there… although wasn’t he a dentist?)

No one bought it, or noticed it, and while there was SOME movement in other directions, there was also (Neon, Pyx) some movement TOWARDS me.

I feared momentum, and came out right and claimed with only ten minutes to go.

I shoulda coulda oughta have done so earlier. So that's on me... sorry for the chaos.

Naively, I hoped you’d join me on brain. But not enough time/focus to argue.

SO.. tonight, I can whisk/banish myself away, but that doesn’t prove my role.

I am open to other ideas, but I won’t be on till tomorrow morning (irl, not game morning). Now I serve spaghetti.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:34 pm**

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.
I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.

D1 bot page for anyone else that wants to review the vote movement
https://mafia.peterlund.se/m76/m76_d1.html

What Neon is saying here checks out.

Although to be fair, Neon, you also tied wagons _with_ Bona by voting worcej and then bozo.

Were either of those votes similar attempts to see movements, and if yes, what movements did or did not happen in your opinion?

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:39 pm**

dargorygel wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:34 pm
Well, that didn’t go well. RIP worcej.

Here is what happened.
I played this game so far exactly how I play every game, imo. I don’t argue, push, prod, annoy, or reaction test much. I do sit back and watch.

It often gets me DKed, but I am who I am. (I play this way in my weekly RL ftf games, too.)

So… as the short day went on there was a growing push on me. I did not want to die, but I also didn’t want to be outed to stay alive.

As I said earlier, the other wagons weren’t satisfactory to me, and brain seems scum. Lots of OMGUS, I admit. But a bit more, I already wrote about that.

As the day went on, and the EoD approached, and I was busy cooking for a crowd, I decided I would crumb… big and obvious, to me. I particularly thought brain, fellow Comic Guy, would notice the reference to Stephen Strange, Sorceror Supreme (and not a doctor. I would have gone Doc Holiday there… although wasn’t he a dentist?)

No one bought it, or noticed it, and while there was SOME movement in other directions, there was also (Neon, Pyx) some movement TOWARDS me.

I feared momentum, and came out right and claimed with only ten minutes to go.

I shoulda coulda oughta have done so earlier. So that's on me... sorry for the chaos.

Naively, I hoped you’d join me on brain. But not enough time/focus to argue.

SO.. tonight, I can whisk/banish myself away, but that doesn’t prove my role.

I am open to other ideas, but I won’t be on till tomorrow morning (irl, not game morning). Now I serve spaghetti.

Like...inventor could give out the scrying stone and you could commute N2? But that is a horrifically bad use of both of those powers.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:40 pm**

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.
I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.

The vote movements were Wolfu that voted me out of the blue, Bo that voted me and then Worcej and Demon and Rum that voted Worcej (and Rumi unvoted).

If Bona is scum, Bo is my best bet for his partner and Demon the other one.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:41 pm**

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:33 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:30 pm
@Sabi how did your interview go?
It went fine I think. There's three more interviews to go for this position.

Thank you for asking.

I did notice while reading thru eod that you are sussing me.

Explain

Usually you ask a lot of questions as town to help you solve you haven't really been doing that here just popping in making statements defending people.

Just pinged me.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:43 pm**

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.
I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.
The vote movements were Wolfu that voted me out of the blue, Bo that voted me and then Worcej and Demon and Rum that voted Worcej (and Rumi unvoted).

If Bona is scum, Bo is my best bet for his partner and Demon the other one.

fyi just in case you missed it, there are 4 scum in this setup, but I also figure you might not have a 4th scumlean at this point

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:44 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:34 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.
I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.
D1 bot page for anyone else that wants to review the vote movement
https://mafia.peterlund.se/m76/m76_d1.html

What Neon is saying here checks out.

Although to be fair, Neon, you also tied wagons _with_ Bona by voting worcej and then bozo.

Were either of those votes similar attempts to see movements, and if yes, what movements did or did not happen in your opinion?

It was all kind of intentional yeah. I pulled off Bozo because I noticed earlier that his wagon was stagnant and I thought he was probably town same with worcej. I was looking for someone I thought wagon structure pointed to as woof to see how that would influence the wagons Bona looked like the best bet and I'd argue the results also prove that.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:45 pm**

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.
I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.
The vote movements were Wolfu that voted me out of the blue, Bo that voted me and then Worcej and Demon and Rum that voted Worcej (and Rumi unvoted).

If Bona is scum, Bo is my best bet for his partner and Demon the other one.

Nice monday morning QBing there madden.

but to echo one thing, neon and wolf look to have started the swing onto worc then bailed the train once it got moving. Might be nothing, but both doing it with how tight knit the sentai team has been all phase gives me pause.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:45 pm**

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 pm
What an awful D1 result and people are more worried with personal things, this is weird.

I really dislike Bo at EOD and after. Dargo will be sorted one way or another and he knows it.

Bona catch up after EOD is weird, but I think it's more likely town.

I am also suspecting Brain after EOD, but it's a bit of OMGUS plus the Dargo thing, I think Dargo was pretty clear on his message and Brain's reaction looks fake.
I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.
The vote movements were Wolfu that voted me out of the blue, Bo that voted me and then Worcej and Demon and Rum that voted Worcej (and Rumi unvoted).

If Bona is scum, Bo is my best bet for his partner and Demon the other one.

I'm unsure how many woofs would actually be willing to save their scummate like that but I'm willing to bet at least 1 is.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:46 pm**

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:45 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 pm

I purposely tied Bona and Worcej with 5 minutes to EoD to see what would happen. The wagon movement onto town implies to me that Bona is a big ole woofy woof.
The vote movements were Wolfu that voted me out of the blue, Bo that voted me and then Worcej and Demon and Rum that voted Worcej (and Rumi unvoted).

If Bona is scum, Bo is my best bet for his partner and Demon the other one.
I'm unsure how many woofs would actually be willing to save their scummate like that but I'm willing to bet at least 1 is.

Assuming of course that Bona is scum

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:46 pm**

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:41 pm

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:33 pm

Princess Neon wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:30 pm
@Sabi how did your interview go?
It went fine I think. There's three more interviews to go for this position.

Thank you for asking.

I did notice while reading thru eod that you are sussing me.

Explain
Usually you ask a lot of questions as town to help you solve you haven't really been doing that here just popping in making statements defending people.

Just pinged me.

It's a mix of awkward D1 and being sick and tired/busy.

But noted.

I feel like if you were a wolf you wouldn't be sr me and instead trying to pocket me per usual.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:47 pm**

dargorygel wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:34 pm
As I said earlier, the other wagons weren’t satisfactory to me, and brain seems scum. Lots of OMGUS, I admit. But a bit more, I already wrote about that.

As the day went on, and the EoD approached, and I was busy cooking for a crowd, I decided I would crumb… big and obvious, to me. I particularly thought brain, fellow Comic Guy, would notice the reference to Stephen Strange, Sorceror Supreme (and not a doctor. I would have gone Doc Holiday there… although wasn’t he a dentist?)

Sucks that you had to clarify but ty for clarifying.

I don't like how Bona tried to get you to claim a specific role before EOD, although I agree with the sentiment at the time that you were somewhat vaguely claiming a crumb.

That said, rdr makes a good point where maybe Bona was behind / trying to stay current, see: all the posts he made after night started.

I'm neutral with a light scumlean on Bona.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:47 pm**

worcej wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:59 pm
Bozo you’re an idiot

Sorry, but I don't know why you were voting for me if you knew I was town.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:48 pm**

Alternatively I have a tinfoil that Rumi could have double vote if she were a woof and unvoted at the end because Bona was safe and taking the double vote anywhere else is dangerous and obvious

That is a tinfoil and an extreme one at that because if I'm woofu I never choose double vote Power in this set up but it does have utility.

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:49 pm**

DemonRHK wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:45 pm
Nice monday morning QBing there madden.

but to echo one thing, neon and wolf look to have started the swing onto worc then bailed the train once it got moving. Might be nothing, but both doing it with how tight knit the sentai team has been all phase gives me pause.

just for the record - i voted worc because case against him gave momentary doubts and was a weaker townlean, didn't want to vote other potential wagons. brain voted rdrivera and i swapped there. don't thunk suspecting me for it is unfair though, have seen mafia pull that type of move and i'm essentially just as complicit

(i did not want to vte bozo because he made a post that gave me doubts)

anyway, out for now, probably won't be thread camping during night but might check in later

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:49 pm**

I'm not going to use the mu game where Bona randed scum because he had a lot of help from anne that game.

I will look into this game where Bona randed scum.

Just a night time reading

http://mafia.peterlund.se/m1022/game_status.html

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