Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:26 pm
Xorxes you are the least valuable reaver target. Reveal.
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I only have one reveal, I can't reveal as many times as I want to.goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:19 pm
How would you feel about a different town PR who voluntarily chose not to use their powers? A claimed Doc who didn't save anyone? A claimed cop who didn't scan anyone? You're in the same boat. I want your extra votes today, where it counts.
Then you're not looking really hard. If you really want I can give you the post number.
I will when I'm ready. Scumhunt.goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:26 pmXorxes you are the least valuable reaver target. Reveal.
Goldfinger has already revealed, Xorxes.xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:26 pmAnd whether I reveal or not should have no bearing on whether you think massclaim is beneficial to town or not. Making your claim contingent on my reveal is ridiculous. In fact, if you are going to claim if I reveal, you should be even more eager to claim if I don't reveal, as it would expose me if I'm lying.goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:19 pm
How would you feel about a different town PR who voluntarily chose not to use their powers? A claimed Doc who didn't save anyone? A claimed cop who didn't scan anyone? You're in the same boat. I want your extra votes today, where it counts.
But tomorrow you won’t reveal because it’s still valuable? This is such bullshit. Take a step back and actually think about it: it really isn’t that valuable. And Zoe can protect you, or the doctor, or the pilot, or other things...xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:26 pmI only have one reveal, I can't reveal as many times as I want to.goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:19 pm
How would you feel about a different town PR who voluntarily chose not to use their powers? A claimed Doc who didn't save anyone? A claimed cop who didn't scan anyone? You're in the same boat. I want your extra votes today, where it counts.
The reveal is irreversible, I can't not have the extra votes once I reveal.
So no, it's not analogous.
And in any case, no, I would not want to lynch a PR that is using their powers the wrong way.
And whether I reveal or not should have no bearing on whether you think massclaim is beneficial to town or not. Making your claim contingent on my reveal is ridiculous. In fact, if you are going to claim if I reveal, you should be even more eager to claim if I don't reveal, as it would expose me if I'm lying.
You are the person who is interfering the most with scumhunting by making yourself the centre of attention. Your ego knows no bounds.xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:27 pmI will when I'm ready. Scumhunt.goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:26 pmXorxes you are the least valuable reaver target. Reveal.
This is a good post.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:07 pmWe need to be pressuring those who have not claimed yet, not our uncced PRs.
##VOTE Kalel
Now you need to get the GM confirmation done, so town has some hours to find someone else to lynch instead. Not having it done now (if it can be done) would be extremely disrupting to town and that in it self VERY ANTI-TOWN behaviour (even more that it has already been). My guess now is that Xorx is the Reaver Prime. I we will know soon...xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:20 pmI don't want the extra votes.
I don't want to be a mechanical clear yet.
I want the freedom to use the reveal to prove I have not been recruited (this was not one of my original reasons, but the way the roleblock works it might actually be useful to have this way of proving I was not recruited available).
So you think I'm being anti-town by not revealing, and you are joining me in being anti-town by not claiming. Is that correct?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:18 pmBecause we are past the point of no return. Not claiming at all was not anti-town. Not participating is also anti-town. But the reaver is really a deterrent to claiming. A strong one that I don’t think people appreciated enough.xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:16 pmIf you think claiming is anti-town, why are you saying that you will claim if I reveal? Why would my reveal cause you to act in an anti-town manner?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:13 pm
BECAUSE CLAIMING IS ANTI-TOWN IN THIS SETUP YOU liú kǒushuǐ de biǎozǐ hé hóuzǐ de bèn érzǐ。We as a group never agreed it wasn’t. Hell by the time the claiming started we were barely past joke phase and a half dozen players hasn’t posted more than “hello”.
You can take your gǒushǐ policy vote, Tom, and put it back where it came from.
I agree that the Reaver is a negative with the mass claim, which is one reason why xorxes should wait to reveal. We want all PRs that can to wait to prove their powers after the Reaver recruiting is complete.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:18 pmBecause we are past the point of no return. Not claiming at all was not anti-town. Not participating is also anti-town. But the reaver is really a deterrent to claiming. A strong one that I don’t think people appreciated enough.xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:16 pmIf you think claiming is anti-town, why are you saying that you will claim if I reveal? Why would my reveal cause you to act in an anti-town manner?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:13 pm
BECAUSE CLAIMING IS ANTI-TOWN IN THIS SETUP YOU liú kǒushuǐ de biǎozǐ hé hóuzǐ de bèn érzǐ。We as a group never agreed it wasn’t. Hell by the time the claiming started we were barely past joke phase and a half dozen players hasn’t posted more than “hello”.
You can take your gǒushǐ policy vote, Tom, and put it back where it came from.
It’s all thematic from firefly. And yes, I do always try to role play the theme a b it.teacon7 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:31 pmStill on mobile. Brief thoughts:
@xorx who else are you looking for reactions from? Can you see why people want you to confirm?
Town is perfectly justified in wanting to get some alignment confirmation. ND/Jamie/others seem to be saying the same things I was earlier d1.
@everyone: does BunnyGo use strange languages like this often? Or ever before?
@bunny - are you reaver? Or just hedging your bets that you'll get converted and have to use foreign languages periodically in the future?
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@nd - imo the mass claim still works even if xorx is scum. I'm not super comfortable with the lack of verification, but go back and look at the math on how this narrows down the lynch pool. Even if he's scum, he'll get cc'd and we can sort that out later. Good idea or not, it's happening now.
@superstitiion - this is not a normal game.
##callgm - is vecna being subbed out? If so, when?
Fine. Whatever. I’m a town PR. Now you’re turn.xorxes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:33 pmSo you think I'm being anti-town by not revealing, and you are joining me in being anti-town by not claiming. Is that correct?