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Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:17 pm
by BobMcBob
Wait, how did I manage to double-post on the forum? Oops.
Temasek22 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:12 pm
Here is the present list:

1. damo666
2. e.m.c
3. bozo
4. dargorygel
5. xorxes
6. Computer_Genius
7. Chaqa
8. rdrivera2005
9. BunnyGo
10. Vecna
11. Temasek22
12.
13. frostwind
14. BionicMole
15.
16. Kitsune
17.
18. purplecow
19. FlaviusAetius
20.
21.
22. Vaporwave
23. BobMcBob
24. KalelChase

SUBS:

a)
b) Tom Bombadil

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:26 pm
by dargorygel
BobMcBob wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:17 pm
Wait, how did I manage to double-post on the forum? Oops.
Temasek22 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:12 pm
Here is the present list:

1. damo666
2. e.m.c
3. bozo
4. dargorygel
5. xorxes
6. Computer_Genius
7. Chaqa
8. rdrivera2005
9. BunnyGo
10. Vecna
11. Temasek22
12.
13. frostwind
14. BionicMole
15.
16. Kitsune
17.
18. purplecow
19. FlaviusAetius
20.
21.
22. Vaporwave
23. BobMcBob
24. KalelChase

SUBS:

a)
b) Tom Bombadil
Glad you're playing. I did, however, only +1 one of your double posts

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:33 pm
by BobMcBob
dargorygel wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:26 pm
Glad you're playing. I did, however, only +1 one of your double posts
Darn. Well, my Karma ratio is already ruined because of mafia, it doesn't matter anyway :)

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
by Vecna
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:38 pm
by BunnyGo
Vecna wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?
I think Jack is immune to NKs. But what about 2 mafia from opposing teams?

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:53 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?
1. It is possible, if Jack and a Mafia player are the last two, and that Mafia player has no relevant powers, for the game to end with no winner. This is relatively unlikely, but possible.

2. If Jack is the sole survivor, he wins.

3. This is a great question. It cannot be a Jack victory as Jack cannot win if dead. But, is it a Town win thanks to Jekyll, or a Hyde win? I shall consult my co-GM and we will seek to determine the fairest answer. Thanks Vecna for raising this.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm
by Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:38 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?
I think Jack is immune to NKs. But what about 2 mafia from opposing teams?
Jack is immune to third party NKs. The Mafia can NK him.

If two Mafia from opposing factions are the last two, and neither has any relevant powers (such as Roleblock or a stolen knife or doctor bag etc) then again this would effectively be a draw. This is relatively unlikely, but possible. Players should bear in mind their victory condition and aim to avoid this outcome, of course.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:00 am
by Vecna
These type of setups have a strong tendency to always come down to a weird convoluted 3 or 4way with 3 factions still able to win

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:50 am
by BunnyGo
Also, will characters be specified as "Male" or does the game only have "Female" and "genderless" characters?

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:16 am
by Kitsune
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:53 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?
1. It is possible, if Jack and a Mafia player are the last two, and that Mafia player has no relevant powers, for the game to end with no winner. This is relatively unlikely, but possible.

2. If Jack is the sole survivor, he wins.

3. This is a great question. It cannot be a Jack victory as Jack cannot win if dead. But, is it a Town win thanks to Jekyll, or a Hyde win? I shall consult my co-GM and we will seek to determine the fairest answer. Thanks Vecna for raising this.
Maybe 3 depends on the winning action?

If a lynch somehow leaves Jekyll the last survivor, he wins and finds a medicine to cure his affliction.

If Hyde nk's the last survivor not Jekyll, it's a Hyde win?

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:26 am
by worcej
Kitsune wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:16 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:53 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?
1. It is possible, if Jack and a Mafia player are the last two, and that Mafia player has no relevant powers, for the game to end with no winner. This is relatively unlikely, but possible.

2. If Jack is the sole survivor, he wins.

3. This is a great question. It cannot be a Jack victory as Jack cannot win if dead. But, is it a Town win thanks to Jekyll, or a Hyde win? I shall consult my co-GM and we will seek to determine the fairest answer. Thanks Vecna for raising this.
Maybe 3 depends on the winning action?

If a lynch somehow leaves Jekyll the last survivor, he wins and finds a medicine to cure his affliction.

If Hyde nk's the last survivor not Jekyll, it's a Hyde win?
Reflecting some: the likelihood of a Jekyl/Hyde as the last survivor is practically impossible because Jekyll will save the other person during the day phase, which applies to the night phase.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:34 am
by worcej
Also, unless hammers are involved, N2 will be the phase that is extended by 24 hours due to Thanksgiving.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:09 am
by BunnyGo
worcej wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:26 am
Kitsune wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:16 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:53 pm


1. It is possible, if Jack and a Mafia player are the last two, and that Mafia player has no relevant powers, for the game to end with no winner. This is relatively unlikely, but possible.

2. If Jack is the sole survivor, he wins.

3. This is a great question. It cannot be a Jack victory as Jack cannot win if dead. But, is it a Town win thanks to Jekyll, or a Hyde win? I shall consult my co-GM and we will seek to determine the fairest answer. Thanks Vecna for raising this.
Maybe 3 depends on the winning action?

If a lynch somehow leaves Jekyll the last survivor, he wins and finds a medicine to cure his affliction.

If Hyde nk's the last survivor not Jekyll, it's a Hyde win?
Reflecting some: the likelihood of a Jekyl/Hyde as the last survivor is practically impossible because Jekyll will save the other person during the day phase, which applies to the night phase.
Why? What if they are scum?

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:09 am
by BunnyGo
worcej wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:34 am
Also, unless hammers are involved, N2 will be the phase that is extended by 24 hours due to Thanksgiving.
Are there hammers this game? I didn't see any in the rules.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:07 am
by BobMcBob
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:09 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:34 am
Also, unless hammers are involved, N2 will be the phase that is extended by 24 hours due to Thanksgiving.
Are there hammers this game? I didn't see any in the rules.
Hammer votes. Like ##END. Very unlikely by N2.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:54 am
by Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:09 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:26 am
Kitsune wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:16 am


Maybe 3 depends on the winning action?

If a lynch somehow leaves Jekyll the last survivor, he wins and finds a medicine to cure his affliction.

If Hyde nk's the last survivor not Jekyll, it's a Hyde win?
Reflecting some: the likelihood of a Jekyl/Hyde as the last survivor is practically impossible because Jekyll will save the other person during the day phase, which applies to the night phase.
Why? What if they are scum?
There is a logical answer to this, but I'll let you all work out what it is.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:55 am
by Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:50 am
Also, will characters be specified as "Male" or does the game only have "Female" and "genderless" characters?
Characters who are not female are male.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:56 am
by Jamiet99uk
Kitsune wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:16 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:53 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:34 pm
Some questions that might need clarifying:

-It appears the game can be won by noone if both a scum member and jack the ripper survive together, which will result in them killing eachother. This is indeed a viable and desirable outcome?
-Maybe update it to clarify what happens if jack the ripper survives on his own in the jack the ripper role PM.
-What happens if Jeckyl/Hide is the solo survivor? Town, evil or jack the ripper victory?
1. It is possible, if Jack and a Mafia player are the last two, and that Mafia player has no relevant powers, for the game to end with no winner. This is relatively unlikely, but possible.

2. If Jack is the sole survivor, he wins.

3. This is a great question. It cannot be a Jack victory as Jack cannot win if dead. But, is it a Town win thanks to Jekyll, or a Hyde win? I shall consult my co-GM and we will seek to determine the fairest answer. Thanks Vecna for raising this.
Maybe 3 depends on the winning action?

If a lynch somehow leaves Jekyll the last survivor, he wins and finds a medicine to cure his affliction.

If Hyde nk's the last survivor not Jekyll, it's a Hyde win?
GM NOTE

I like this.

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:02 am
by Temasek22
@ItsH

C'mon m8, sign up!

Re: Mafia LI sign-up thread

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:29 am
by damo666
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