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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:36 pm
by brainbomb
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:35 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:13 pm
I think town would be better off if everyone claimed their roles to force the scum to claim their fake roles. Otherwise, when we are about to lynch scum, they will just pick their best fake role and claim it to divert the lynch to a town member.
that sounds like a completely unrealistic proposal that has never happened here or anywhere for that matter, and definetely isnt gonna happen this game either.
Why not? I think the scum would prefer to not have to fake claim roles day 1, so it would be a benefit to town. None of the town roles are so powerful that it would be a great loss for the scum to be able to target roles to NK.
Oh Im not arguing its validity. im saying youre lying if you think we would ever actually do it in a trillion years.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:36 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:20 pm
Ive been playing mafia since the summer of 1874 and ive never seen a day 1 massclaim.
aye
This game is a good opportunity to make history then.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:38 pm
by Percy Williams
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:31 pm
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:23 pm
I really don't like whatever Worcej is playing at. Starting the game with two "Townslips" so bad, he would never do them as scum... or would he? I really hate this qigong play right out of the gate, and then acting as though he is Town leader after. I'm not saying he's for sure scum by any means, but I really don't like it either.
hedging?
Yes.
He could be scum lampshading and convincing us he is really a Town, OR
He could be Town joking/ using an odd ball strategy to show he's Town, and help us look in the right direction.
I'm just too [pick one] Dumb/Inexperienced /Australian To know which one it is. I can recognize mind games though and wanted to call it out, and offer it up as an offering to more skilled players.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:38 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:36 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:35 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 pm
that sounds like a completely unrealistic proposal that has never happened here or anywhere for that matter, and definetely isnt gonna happen this game either.
Why not? I think the scum would prefer to not have to fake claim roles day 1, so it would be a benefit to town. None of the town roles are so powerful that it would be a great loss for the scum to be able to target roles to NK.
Oh Im not arguing its validity. im saying youre lying if you think we would ever actually do it in a trillion years.
All we need is a majority to agree. I will start a vote:
support mass claim: bozo
oppose mass claim:
Please take an official position and add your name to the vote.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:43 pm
by dargorygel
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:38 pm
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:31 pm
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:23 pm
I really don't like whatever Worcej is playing at. Starting the game with two "Townslips" so bad, he would never do them as scum... or would he? I really hate this qigong play right out of the gate, and then acting as though he is Town leader after. I'm not saying he's for sure scum by any means, but I really don't like it either.
hedging?
Yes.
He could be scum lampshading and convincing us he is really a Town, OR
He could be Town joking/ using an odd ball strategy to show he's Town, and help us look in the right direction.
I'm just too [pick one] Dumb/Inexperienced /Australian To know which one it is. I can recognize mind games though and wanted to call it out, and offer it up as an offering to more skilled players.
You?
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:44 pm
by brainbomb
bozo doubling down on this rather than retreating...
I wonder if hes forcing it now
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:48 pm
by brainbomb
the fact the setup says scum got fake claims makes a mass claim kinda bad.
at best yoid just be trying to guess if gms handpicked or rngd
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:51 pm
by brainbomb
Also doesnt that give scum exactly the roles they know they gotta kill?
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:55 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:51 pm
Also doesnt that give scum exactly the roles they know they gotta kill?
What roles do they have to kill? No town roles are so powerful that it is obvious.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:56 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:48 pm
the fact the setup says scum got fake claims makes a mass claim kinda bad.
at best yoid just be trying to guess if gms handpicked or rngd
No, that makes the game not broken. I think it would still significantly benefit town to claim roles.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:57 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:44 pm
bozo doubling down on this rather than retreating...
I wonder if hes forcing it now
I wonder if you are avoiding taking a firm position.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:02 pm
by brainbomb
yea stop wondering. im firmly against it because it removes the layer of NK analysis that applies motive to their kills derived from PR guessing.
you take human error and replace it with a lineup of PR scum can pick off as they see fit
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:04 pm
by brainbomb
believe it or not alot of scum on MU dont like to kill based on who has good reads. they prefer just killing good players who are good roles.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:05 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:02 pm
yea stop wondering. im firmly against it because it removes the layer of NK analysis that applies motive to their kills derived from PR guessing.
you take human error and replace it with a lineup of PR scum can pick off as they see fit
Yes, that is the one negative, but you are ignoring all of the benefits.
support mass claim: bozo
oppose mass claim: brainbomb
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:05 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:04 pm
believe it or not alot of scum on MU dont like to kill based on who has good reads. they prefer just killing good players who are good roles.
If you were scum, what order would you kill the town roles in this game if you had your choice?
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:08 pm
by brainbomb
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:05 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:04 pm
believe it or not alot of scum on MU dont like to kill based on who has good reads. they prefer just killing good players who are good roles.
If you were scum, what order would you kill the town roles in this game if you had your choice?
if xorxes is town. i kill him
if tom is town i kill him
after that nobodys a superstar. ok vecna. if vecnas town hes always a kill choice.
If I were scum id be pretty unafraid of the rest of the playerlist. dargo has good reads on me occasionally. as do you
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:13 pm
by Chaqa
If I’m mafia I always make a case for killing brainbomb just so there’s half as many posts in the damn thread. Someday I’ll be vigilante so I can just pop him :)
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:14 pm
by bozotheclown
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:08 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:05 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:04 pm
believe it or not alot of scum on MU dont like to kill based on who has good reads. they prefer just killing good players who are good roles.
If you were scum, what order would you kill the town roles in this game if you had your choice?
if xorxes is town. i kill him
if tom is town i kill him
after that nobodys a superstar. ok vecna. if vecnas town hes always a kill choice.
If I were scum id be pretty unafraid of the rest of the playerlist. dargo has good reads on me occasionally. as do you
I asked what roles, not what players. Your argument against mass claiming was that the scum could choose the roles they NK.
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:14 pm
by bozotheclown
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:13 pm
If I’m mafia I always make a case for killing brainbomb just so there’s half as many posts in the damn thread. Someday I’ll be vigilante so I can just pop him :)
Do you have a position on mass claiming roles?
Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:17 pm
by flash2015
I don't see the point of the mass claim if scum have been given fake roles to claim.