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President Eden wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:38 am

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:37 am

It did strike me as being odd that after all the talk about "well now we know bozo's alignment let's vote someone out to give oracle a good target" so many people just defaulted to voting him anyway

Though I don't think anyone on that list is particularly scummy. Maybe Jamiet - I forget who but whoever said "Jamiet doesn't seem to give a shit about lurkers" struck me as true, though I'm not really sure that makes sense unless scum mass bussed bozo D2 which I kinda think might've happened but I don't know why they would

consider that they might have just not had a choice d2 because we put 2 mafia up at the end

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:46 am

With the obvious worcej exception (unless you think scum team is bona, worcej, and bozo, in which case jesus), everyone voted for bozo at the end of the day besides Vecna. I think Vecna has been a relatively popular townread, but maybe something is there? I doubt it, though.

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:06 pm

President Eden wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:38 am

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:37 am

It did strike me as being odd that after all the talk about "well now we know bozo's alignment let's vote someone out to give oracle a good target" so many people just defaulted to voting him anyway

Though I don't think anyone on that list is particularly scummy. Maybe Jamiet - I forget who but whoever said "Jamiet doesn't seem to give a shit about lurkers" struck me as true, though I'm not really sure that makes sense unless scum mass bussed bozo D2 which I kinda think might've happened but I don't know why they would

consider that they might have just not had a choice d2 because we put 2 mafia up at the end

Jamie was scumreading bozo before EOD, though. It's not like he just jumped on the wagon when it was between bozo and Tom.

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:16 am

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:07 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:04 am

Oh I see. That's just my personality in games like this. I like to over-explain rather than under-explain whenever possible because when I leave things unexplained assuming they're obvious I almost always get questions about. I figure might as well explain everything as much as possible so long as I have the time do so in order to make sure I can do a good job once instead of having to redo it multiple times.

And therefore, your opinion on kgray with this understanding? Still the same?

I see why she views it as weird and a light scum tell just because it is weird and has no meta read on me. Doesn't change my read on her because my read was never based on OMGUS but was more based on voting patterns.

Durga wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:14 pm

We're not flipping snowy, what

Durga wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:14 pm

We're not flipping snowy, what

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:16 pm

Durga wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:14 pm

We're not flipping snowy, what

He’s obvscum

Vecna wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:55 am

Durga wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:23 am

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:21 am

@Durga why do you townread kgray?

I don't I just feel bad that she's upset, yknow?

In all seriousness I can't figure her out this game. She's different than normal but I heard her scum game is top tier but this isn't exactly that. She's frustrated and showing it and I'm not sure she would necessarily do that as scum. But then again I don't know why she's frustrated as town either. So really I'm confused.

My guess would be because everyones scumreading her and arguing over stuff and telling her she wrong.

Or maybe im just wrong

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:36 pm

At work and can’t keep up with you maniacs all the time.

I still sorta like giving Oracle a useful dead person rather than almost certainly scum bozo. (Though I suppose with multiple near clears scum probably aren’t going to hit Oracle anyways so we could probably just dispatch bozo here)

##vote President Eden for now. Will fully catch-up at lunch.

I also think kgray is still a possibility. Assume scum killed Bona because they thought they had a guilty scan on bozo. Kgray could have picked up on this and bussed bozo. Certainly bussing does make sense in a setup with oracles as it could give scum deep cover if a dead scum is revealed. Also would help explain why her counterwagon fizzled and wagons started on me and TFB (to a lesser degree)

I think either of these would be a better Oracle target than bozo.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:46 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:44 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:39 am

I legitamitely have no memory of what scummy thing you could be talking about. Shutting down the damo cop theory?

No. But I am thinking about it more and though I still think it's scummy, it might actually make you less likely to be scum... I don't know, it's not important atm

This is confusing.

If you think it's not important could you briefly explain what it was, so that we can put it aside and stop wondering what you saw that others missed?

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:52 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:49 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:47 am

Oh kgray did you miss my explanation of the ghug read?

I thought he was Doctor, when he hardclaimed it.

I didn’t want to explain it for fear of making scum think about it

Yeah I did see that you said that, though you still said you were unsure about ghug after he hardclaimed doc and before the alleged slip. And if you didn't want scum to think about the possibility of doc!ghug, why would you state outright that you unironically believe him?

So honestly this explanation makes me more suspicious. I guess that's why it's called a tunnel.

Yeah that's fair. It wasn't an immediate realization I had so the progression was a little weird

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:26 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:36 pm

At work and can’t keep up with you maniacs all the time.

I still sorta like giving Oracle a useful dead person rather than almost certainly scum bozo. (Though I suppose with multiple near clears scum probably aren’t going to hit Oracle anyways so we could probably just dispatch bozo here)

##vote President Eden for now. Will fully catch-up at lunch.

I also think kgray is still a possibility. Assume scum killed Bona because they thought they had a guilty scan on bozo. Kgray could have picked up on this and bussed bozo. Certainly bussing does make sense in a setup with oracles as it could give scum deep cover if a dead scum is revealed. Also would help explain why her counterwagon fizzled and wagons started on me and TFB (to a lesser degree)

I think either of these would be a better Oracle target than bozo.

What the heck Tom. I'm still a possibility because the scumread I pushed that turned out to be (almost certainly) scum could have just been me bussing? That's not even a reason to scumread me, it's just claiming that anything I'm doing could still be done by scum.

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:29 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:52 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:49 pm

Yeah I did see that you said that, though you still said you were unsure about ghug after he hardclaimed doc and before the alleged slip. And if you didn't want scum to think about the possibility of doc!ghug, why would you state outright that you unironically believe him?

So honestly this explanation makes me more suspicious. I guess that's why it's called a tunnel.

Yeah that's fair. It wasn't an immediate realization I had so the progression was a little weird

Sorry I'm confused. You thought he was the doc when he claimed it, but you didn't immediately realize that made you townread him?

kgray wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:26 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:36 pm

At work and can’t keep up with you maniacs all the time.

I still sorta like giving Oracle a useful dead person rather than almost certainly scum bozo. (Though I suppose with multiple near clears scum probably aren’t going to hit Oracle anyways so we could probably just dispatch bozo here)

##vote President Eden for now. Will fully catch-up at lunch.

I also think kgray is still a possibility. Assume scum killed Bona because they thought they had a guilty scan on bozo. Kgray could have picked up on this and bussed bozo. Certainly bussing does make sense in a setup with oracles as it could give scum deep cover if a dead scum is revealed. Also would help explain why her counterwagon fizzled and wagons started on me and TFB (to a lesser degree)

I think either of these would be a better Oracle target than bozo.

What the heck Tom. I'm still a possibility because the scumread I pushed that turned out to be (almost certainly) scum could have just been me bussing? That's not even a reason to scumread me, it's just claiming that anything I'm doing could still be done by scum.