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@Ghug: Could you tell us more about why you scumread Kgray and Chaqa?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:00 am

Man, I feel I have way too many townreads already. unnatural

Don't you normally have a bunch of town reads on D1 and slowly develop the scum reads as the game goes on?

Why I say this is I thought this was your intentional strategy to survive N1.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:06 am

1. yavuzovic
2. bonatogether
3. ghug
4. macca573
5. rdrivera2005
6. Celaph
7. Vecna
8. damo666
9. Hamilton Brian
10. belCavendishNY
11. worcej
12. kgray
13. Chaqa
14. Maniac
15. brainbomb
16. Dargorygel
17. Kakarroto
18. foodcoats
19. DemonRHK
20. Jamiet99uk

Feeling decent about this, in different shades of green

How do you always get my alignment right?

I need to know the secret.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:45 am

Not voting the following today:

ghug
Food
Worcej
Jamie
HB
Brain
The potential modkill

Anyone else is, at the moment, fair game.

Can you expand on why not Jamie - at the point of this post, he hasn't done much.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:10 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:54 am

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:14 am

this is a nice analytical foodcoats though

if he starts trying to narrow down pr lists gun him down

Huh? Mafia know which PRs are in the game already.

First thing I've read this game worthy of discussion.

So is this

A) a brainbomb townslip
B) scum brainbomb wanting it to seem like A
C) scum brainbomb not realising his own advantage?

None of these would surprise me. I'm going to assume A for the timebeing.

D) something something WEREWOLF something

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:08 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:45 am

Not voting the following today:

ghug
Food
Worcej
Jamie
HB
Brain
The potential modkill

Anyone else is, at the moment, fair game.

Can you expand on why not Jamie - at the point of this post, he hasn't done much.

How dare you.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:06 am

@Ghug: Could you tell us more about why you scumread Kgray and Chaqa?

There is proof that these two are great at scum theater in the last game I ran.

I remember thinking they did a smashing job.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:12 am

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:08 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:45 am

Not voting the following today:

ghug
Food
Worcej
Jamie
HB
Brain
The potential modkill

Anyone else is, at the moment, fair game.

Can you expand on why not Jamie - at the point of this post, he hasn't done much.

How dare you.

Amurica.

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:39 am

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:22 pm

I’m really feeling uninspired by this JamieT catchup. It feels like he is seizing upon regurgitated moments that have already been pointed out. And that makes me think hes just doing what he thinks he usually does

Also my take - Jamie's entrance was rather different than normal.

Run me through my "normal" entrance?
What has differed this time?
Do you agree with Maniac's case on me?

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:13 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:06 am

@Ghug: Could you tell us more about why you scumread Kgray and Chaqa?

There is proof that these two are great at scum theater in the last game I ran.

I remember thinking they did a smashing job.

Thank you, Ghug.
That was a very interesting answer, Ghug.

celaph wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 am

Kakarroto wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:58 am

@celaph @kgray I also like to know what you think of my 'dargo trapped' theory

I think I agree with your conclusion that darg is looking scummy, though I think I would go about making the argument differently.

For one, you're framing it as if ghug and Vecna were setting the trap intentionally which doesn't seem to be the case. At least, if it was the case then I'm surprised they aren't jumping more over it. I also think that you are glossing over the fact that he said he found himself tunneling severely after a single post regarding Bona.

- I'm an intuitive player, at least for the greater part, that's why most queues I jump on are often looked upon as strange (like in my last game where I first thought jamiet was 3rd party but actually was just PR but then on the other hand I sensed the connection between worcej and ghug last game while I spectated) so I'm having a hard time to make sense of things, at least in the way to explain them to others.

as for the framing of setting the trap ... partly, yes, like in the sense 'oh we agree on something, then lets test this and see who follows', at least I'd expect both of them of having so much game experience that they could pull it off as every role (and right now I don't think either of them is mafia with what I've seen from them so far *whisper* even if ghug still can be eviii~iil *whisper* )

and yeah, I missed (or rather didn't compute consciously) that he said that, this increases my doubtlevel on him

kgray wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:11 am

Kakarroto wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:58 am

@celaph @kgray I also like to know what you think of my 'dargo trapped' theory

I don't know about a trap... I don't understand why he moved to Maniac but I don't really understand the scumreads on Maniac in general. I actually think darg's move to Maniac was less opportunistic than his vote for Bona, considering ghug and Vecna had been on Maniac for a while before he moved there. If it was just about joining a big wagon he could have moved to food... but I guess there are other reasons why scum!Darg might pick Maniac over food there.

- yes, it might've been just coincidence and not a trap but (especially at the time) I could see pull them off something like that. With ghug now saying he actually reads maniac as mafia, my trap theory makes no sense (but then again, it could be just ghug and doesn't think that).

considering the vote, I remember darg saying something about the bot tracker not working and then working again, so I'm pretty sure he had a look at the tracker when voting. Before he voted, it was 2 votes on maniac, bona and food, after that 3 maniac, 2 food and the rest only 1. Hmm ... thanks for pointing that out, that might be useful later on.

ghug wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:52 am

Kakarroto wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:24 am

also, since you're here right now

@ghug please tell me, what do you think about my dargo theory

That he's looking to follow on a wagon?

I legitimately like the Maniac vote as much as I can like any vote day one. Darg's votes are unimpressive but not completely out of character. I'm more concerned with the way he walked back the Bona vote when it became clear his logic was backwards.

- Hmm, I see, celaph pointed at the same thing. I guess my senses are still good and I still need to work on my logic to process them correctly. Thanks for your input.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 am

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:13 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:06 am

@Ghug: Could you tell us more about why you scumread Kgray and Chaqa?

There is proof that these two are great at scum theater in the last game I ran.

I remember thinking they did a smashing job.

Thank you, Ghug.
That was a very interesting answer, Ghug.

Actually this is interesting.

Worcej appears to agree with Ghug's scumread on Kgray and talks up how good a scum player Kgray is, while at the same time Worcej is currently voting Hamilton because of how much he agreed with Kgray's suspicion of Hamilton.

@Worcej: You must assume Kgray was trying to bus Hamilton there, hmm?

kgray wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:28 am

Kakarroto wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:16 am

also my current impressions as far as D1 is any good for that: Chaqa strong town, brain and vecna pretty towny, damo is damo, rd is worth having a closer look, demonrhk is somewhat towny, ghug looks good (but somehow something is whispering in my ear he's evil), from the few thing's I've seen from maniac he is ok (but would like see more), jamiet is ... surprisingly silent, that's unusual, then dargo looks bad right now, I feel something not too good from hamilton, but that might be just a thing with 'the third to claim missed start' thing

if I had a gun, right now, I'd (threaten and) shoot in this kinda order: dargo > hamilton > rd = jamiet

Of the people you mention here, how many have you not played with before?

I know it myself, I focussed too much on people I know more of, but I had a lot to process in a short time. For the exact answer to your question: if I'm not wrong, I never played a game with Hamilton Brian before, so that would make one.

Then again, I didn't get a clear thought of people I've played (or at least watched a game of) too, so I didn't include them in my impressions above.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:00 am

Man, I feel I have way too many townreads already. unnatural

- I can feel you there, I have always started with too many townreads. Normally, over time, it all sorts itself out (at about the point when my brain catches up to my sensory input).

I'm going to ##Vote Maniac

Note 1: Today is my 40th birthday and I cannot promise that I am especially motivated to spend the evening of my 40th birthday in the company of you humanoids. Therefore I cannot promise to be around at EoD. However I think Maniac is a solid wagon at this point in time.

Damo is very quiet. What's the matter, Damo?

Hi, Macca567

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 am

Hi, Macca567

Incorrect, but happy birthday!

(I'll do my posts now)

worcej wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:07 am

Vecna wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:06 am

1. yavuzovic
2. bonatogether
3. ghug
4. macca573
5. rdrivera2005
6. Celaph
7. Vecna
8. damo666
9. Hamilton Brian
10. belCavendishNY
11. worcej
12. kgray
13. Chaqa
14. Maniac
15. brainbomb
16. Dargorygel
17. Kakarroto
18. foodcoats
19. DemonRHK
20. Jamiet99uk

Feeling decent about this, in different shades of green

How do you always get my alignment right?

I need to know the secret.

stop making me feel like youre gloating because i got it wrong lol

happy birthday jamiet. Good timing for you that your lockdown is over