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brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:14 pm

Id be very shocked if the mafia was anyone other than ghug/kak this game.

Ghug, I could see as mafia. They incited the jamiet/will war.
Kak, probably not. Kak hasn't been very helpful, but I read them as annoying and unhelpful town, not scum.

Most of why I scumread ghug is that hes just scum. Like its blatantly obvious. Beyond that if you need reasons try that none of his votes have had a single shred of conviction behind them

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:22 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:14 pm

Id be very shocked if the mafia was anyone other than ghug/kak this game.

Ghug, I could see as mafia. They incited the jamiet/will war.
Kak, probably not. Kak hasn't been very helpful, but I read them as annoying and unhelpful town, not scum.

I what now?

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:33 pm

Most of why I scumread ghug is that hes just scum. Like its blatantly obvious. Beyond that if you need reasons try that none of his votes have had a single shred of conviction behind them

Lacking conviction doesn't make me scum.

ghug wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:45 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:33 pm

Most of why I scumread ghug is that hes just scum. Like its blatantly obvious. Beyond that if you need reasons try that none of his votes have had a single shred of conviction behind them

Lacking conviction doesn't make me scum.

Having votes that lack purpose is good enough for me for why you are scum

Before you clap back that this is your met
It isnt

Before you try to claim this is just how you play
It isnt

Dont even try those lines.

White knighted Jamie because it was easy to do
Chose d&w because it was the lowest hanging town fruit
Chose me for omgus

Voted rdr to be playful and spread votes around to hide who your teammate is

Voted will because it was early and was a vote out of respect and was invalid anyway

Corrected the vote when you were aware your vote had been invalid all that time

Basically poor voting history.
Mostly helpful moves only if you were scum

Well lunch went longer than expected. Gonna be driving so I can’t do much, sorry.

Final solve is brain rdr

Other pairings are
ghug dip
Worcej ghug

Aight peace

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:22 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:14 pm

Id be very shocked if the mafia was anyone other than ghug/kak this game.

Ghug, I could see as mafia. They incited the jamiet/will war.
Kak, probably not. Kak hasn't been very helpful, but I read them as annoying and unhelpful town, not scum.

???

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:48 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:45 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:33 pm

Most of why I scumread ghug is that hes just scum. Like its blatantly obvious. Beyond that if you need reasons try that none of his votes have had a single shred of conviction behind them

Lacking conviction doesn't make me scum.

Having votes that lack purpose is good enough for me for why you are scum

They don't lack purpose. They lack conviction. There's a difference

So I don’t think ghug is mafia but it would make sense if he was logistically

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:01 pm

White knighted Jamie because it was easy to do
Chose d&w because it was the lowest hanging town fruit
Chose me for omgus

Voted rdr to be playful and spread votes around to hide who your teammate is

Voted will because it was early and was a vote out of respect and was invalid anyway

Corrected the vote when you were aware your vote had been invalid all that time

Basically poor voting history.
Mostly helpful moves only if you were scum

Defended Jamie because y'all nearly hammered him for making a vote.
Voted d&w because nobody was joining me on you, I was going to have limited availability, and he was my preference of the wagons.
Voted you because you were scummy.
Voted rdr because the game state was getting stale.
The Will vote is absolutely something I do every game.
I never corrected my invalid vote.

You voted four people and we know at least three of them were town, including the one you killed. I suspect the fourth is too. Basically poor voting history.

What you're seeing from my D1 play is a lack of strong reads, which definitely happens to me sometimes. It is something I can imagine town you getting upset at though.

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:35 pm

Well lunch went longer than expected. Gonna be driving so I can’t do much, sorry.

Final solve is brain rdr

Other pairings are
ghug dip
Worcej ghug

Aight peace

You think I bussed Dip like that?

Wow, and I was just expecting you to leave all of those as wifom. The fact youre even replying probably means im the nightkill. So thats entertaining at least

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:49 pm

Wow, and I was just expecting you to leave all of those as wifom. The fact youre even replying probably means im the nightkill. So thats entertaining at least

Yeah I think you're just scum.

Its ghug and kak
Always was and always will be.

With the whole will claiming, I second damo's advice, it should be best to let the doc choose and the rest voting for cop. Was thinking of discussing this a bit together, but held back since it feels like it could be manipulated by mafia and their strange powers this game.

But who to choose for the copscan? Worcej and RD seems a great choice as I don't have too much information about them. Maybe myself so cop could clear me? But that is kinda selfish. I also feel that my biggest strength, at least what I think it is, lategame analysis, is quite hampered with this short kind of a game. So I guess it should be used differently.

I also thought maybe scanning brain might be good, since it isn't too far to think that he might get misvoted again. Well, at least I think he is town, so if cop can clear him it might be great too. But brain is more of an early power, so maybe not? I do not feel good about damo though, even when brain thinks he is town. Maybe check damo, and if he is town, he should be good for a lategame town anchor? And if my feeling is right and the scan confirms it we can just vote him out.

I feel a scan of d&w is kinda wasted. I don't see the towniness that brain describes, I kinda just want to vote him out tomorrow. He nearly caused jamie to get hammered, riding on brains and wills emotions, just popping on there. He tries to discredit me by calling me unhelpful, but he himself didn't even answer questions. Best to just vote him out tomorrow.

There also hasn't been too many posts, so my world view is kinda the same, maybe worcej got a slight town vibe from the feelings of his posts. Damo a bit less so. So to visualize it:

ghug~brain > > > > worcej ~ RD > damo > > d&w

so I think we should just vote out d&w tomorrow, with the rest of the PoE worcej, RD and damo. If you feel the need to include me, fine I guess. Depending on the copscan though, but that's not easy to know without cop claiming. So maybe we should reveal who we voted? That way we could see which one was scanned and can, if the cop doesn't reveal, choose from the others? Although maybe not, since I don't think d&w gets voted for the copscan. Yeah, best to not reveal and just get d&w out.

I also wouldn't vote for ghug or brain this game. Well, if there is a guilty scan that would be plausible I guess I would, but I kinda feel that's unlikely. I do feel, however, that brain is pretty off with his reads this game. He was for jamie, and I know he is for me. Pretty sure he is off for ghug and d&w too. Maybe I shouldn't trust him too much about damo, though the logic there made sense. Hmm.

oh, and damo: I submitted my preferred choice, I just didn't want the mafia to change it

After the sorrowful end of Jamiet99uk, the Society had decided that a short recess was in order. Jamie was always such a kind soul, introducing them to the sugary hallmarks of his island homeland, like jammy dodgers and spotted dick; too late they recalled his preoccupation with maple tea. What had the Society been thinking, putting him to such an ignominious end?

At the appointed time, the group gathered once more... but one of their number was missing. Hurriedly, they began to search the corridors of the guild hall... and found their companion locked in a broom closet, his mouth stuffed to bursting with ham and cheese scones!

GHUG HAS DIED! HE WAS A VANILLA TOWN!

DAY 2 HAS STARTED. YOU MAY NOW POST.

I find it unlikely brain is scum, I'll post a full analysis later but I mostly townread them. Especially if neither brain nor ghug get NKed, I suspect that they are just starting an argument for the sake of starting an argument.