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Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:03 pm
by Vecna
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Don't think we can change the result now. If HR isn't scum we lose.

Vecna is dying too. Last words?
There's an hour and five minutes left.

I would like Vecna to explain why he felt the need to claim.

Surely it's possible that Damo was the scum target yesterday. Why claim and help scum out, Vecna?
Yeah, yeah, its entirely possible that scum killed one of the top 2 wagons and one of the most widely scumread players.

Or y'know....maybe they did the obvious thing that every scumteam always does?

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:03 pm
by rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Don't think we can change the result now. If HR isn't scum we lose.

Vecna is dying too. Last words?
There's an hour and five minutes left.

I would like Vecna to explain why he felt the need to claim.

Surely it's possible that Damo was the scum target yesterday. Why claim and help scum out, Vecna?
Really Jamiet? Questioning Vecna? Do you really believe scum could have targeted Damo?

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:07 pm
by kgray
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Don't think we can change the result now. If HR isn't scum we lose.

Vecna is dying too. Last words?
What? This isn't right, is it? We're not in mylo yet.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:10 pm
by Vecna
##vote Summit

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:10 pm
by summit_fever
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:43 pm
If I go through the five people voting me, they have the following excellent reasons:

Jamie - I "massively overblew" summit's desire to get Macca D1, and I did not contribute at all prior to EoD (something he already admitted he was wrong on).

Vecna - I don't even know

Bozo - I was possibly wrong about the scum killing Damo. No explanation on why I would go down that route as scum, or indeed why that makes me scum.

Rdrivera - I was protecting Macca D1, 24 hours after the push occurred, and at a time when Macca was under no pressure whatsoever, and yet I'm a better vote than Macca regardless. ???

Macca - Agrees with all the excellent points against me

Truly a lineup of cases that withstand even the firmest of rebuttals.
I don't read HR very well, but I kind of agree that the reasons for him being lead wagon are soft. He's tunnelled HB and given too much credit, in my opinion, to scum fucking up their nightkill.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:12 pm
by Jamiet99uk
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:03 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Don't think we can change the result now. If HR isn't scum we lose.

Vecna is dying too. Last words?
There's an hour and five minutes left.

I would like Vecna to explain why he felt the need to claim.

Surely it's possible that Damo was the scum target yesterday. Why claim and help scum out, Vecna?
Really Jamiet? Questioning Vecna? Do you really believe scum could have targeted Damo?
Why shouldn't I ask Vecna questions?

Of course it's possible they targeted Damo.

Is it the most likely scenario? No.

Is it possible? Of course.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:13 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:03 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Don't think we can change the result now. If HR isn't scum we lose.

Vecna is dying too. Last words?
There's an hour and five minutes left.

I would like Vecna to explain why he felt the need to claim.

Surely it's possible that Damo was the scum target yesterday. Why claim and help scum out, Vecna?
Yeah, yeah, its entirely possible that scum killed one of the top 2 wagons and one of the most widely scumread players.

Or y'know....maybe they did the obvious thing that every scumteam always does?
Damo had no more than 2 votes on him at any time until 40 minutes before EoD.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:16 pm
by rdrivera2005
kgray wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:07 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Don't think we can change the result now. If HR isn't scum we lose.

Vecna is dying too. Last words?
What? This isn't right, is it? We're not in mylo yet.
No, it's not mylo, but if miskill today we need to kill right 3 times in a row with scum having 3/8 of the votes. Not a food perspective.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:17 pm
by Vecna
Bozo is also probably scum. Hasnt done anything to solve at all

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:18 pm
by rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:12 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:03 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 pm


There's an hour and five minutes left.

I would like Vecna to explain why he felt the need to claim.

Surely it's possible that Damo was the scum target yesterday. Why claim and help scum out, Vecna?
Really Jamiet? Questioning Vecna? Do you really believe scum could have targeted Damo?
Why shouldn't I ask Vecna questions?

Of course it's possible they targeted Damo.

Is it the most likely scenario? No.

Is it possible? Of course.
I just don't see the point of discussing it now, as it isn't relevant to EOD. If Damo was the target Vecna will be alive tomorrow.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:21 pm
by rdrivera2005
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:10 pm
##vote Summit
Do you think HR is town? HR was so hard to lynch in the Matrix game that I really fear leaving him. On the other side he fought a lot harder as scum. But would he try to change his meta? Pure WIFOM.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:21 pm
by Hamilton Brian
Sorry, usual Friday routime for us. Will be checking.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:25 pm
by Vecna
The only thing im scumreading HR for is how he treated the scumkill and danced around my slot after the kill failed.

not sure if thats a good enough reason. Its quite possible he's scum.

Summit is always an easy townread though. Nothing the slot has done has stood out, or sounded very believable so far to my ears.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:25 pm
by kgray
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:17 pm
Bozo is also probably scum. Hasnt done anything to solve at all
Yeah I'm getting really suspicious of this slot too. I don't remember bozo ever being this uninterested or unhelpful.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:26 pm
by Hellenic Riot
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:21 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:10 pm
##vote Summit
Do you think HR is town? HR was so hard to lynch in the Matrix game that I really fear leaving him. On the other side he fought a lot harder as scum. But would he try to change his meta? Pure WIFOM.
There's a bit of a contrast going on here in that one post you're feeling hopeless about the prospect of daykilling scum three times in a row, and then the next one you essentially admit you're daykilling me out of fear. If you think our prospects are so dim should we get it wrong today, why on earth are you throwing your vote away in such a baseless way in the first place?

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:28 pm
by Hellenic Riot
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:25 pm
The only thing im scumreading HR for is how he treated the scumkill and danced around my slot after the kill failed.

not sure if thats a good enough reason. Its quite possible he's scum.

Summit is always an easy townread though. Nothing the slot has done has stood out, or sounded very believable so far to my ears.
I don't watch YouTube links, so I missed your claim. On the flip side, do you really think I'd come in scumreading someone I then knew to be a PR? It ain't like I'm a noob who is going to get credit from dumbtelling. Seems a pretty dubious thing to scumread me for.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:32 pm
by Vecna
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:28 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:25 pm
The only thing im scumreading HR for is how he treated the scumkill and danced around my slot after the kill failed.

not sure if thats a good enough reason. Its quite possible he's scum.

Summit is always an easy townread though. Nothing the slot has done has stood out, or sounded very believable so far to my ears.
I don't watch YouTube links, so I missed your claim. On the flip side, do you really think I'd come in scumreading someone I then knew to be a PR? It ain't like I'm a noob who is going to get credit from dumbtelling. Seems a pretty dubious thing to scumread me for.
Thats not my reasoning. My reasoning is you were casting doubt on my slot over the HB voting (specifically targeting me, which is a wifom thing smarter scum players often love to do when they know the slot is about to die).

Then when the NK failed, you were around talking, but the brief targeting of me stopped, almost like you knew I would soon claim to be BP.

Yes, theres other explanations for this as well.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:32 pm
by kgray
I still think Jamie's weird but I'm not loving sitting on a wagon with Hamilton, and his recent activity makes me think there are probably better options.

I'd consider sheeping Vecna but first let's see if anyone would ##vote bozo with me.

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:33 pm
by Vecna
Convince me on Bozo, because I was actually just throwing out bait to see who would bite

Re: M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:34 pm
by rdrivera2005
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:26 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:21 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:10 pm
##vote Summit
Do you think HR is town? HR was so hard to lynch in the Matrix game that I really fear leaving him. On the other side he fought a lot harder as scum. But would he try to change his meta? Pure WIFOM.
There's a bit of a contrast going on here in that one post you're feeling hopeless about the prospect of daykilling scum three times in a row, and then the next one you essentially admit you're daykilling me out of fear. If you think our prospects are so dim should we get it wrong today, why on earth are you throwing your vote away in such a baseless way in the first place?
I am scumreading you because of your insistence that scum could have targeted Damo, when all they need is 1 single vote to change the NK target (it's like you want to seem you don't know scum mechanics). And targeting Damo is completely dumb in the first place.