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yupHamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 amSo far, after reading Brain, Bunny, kgray, ghug, and Bona over, seems like
a) there's a bunch of role stuff that's pissing me off because some of you seem to be running some permutations ...and
b) Macca or Celaph might be D4 kills?
Did you ignore my message WHERE I QUOTED AND HIGHLIGHTED DAMO SAYING HE WAS DOC SAVEDBunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:19 amThat's also a good point.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:17 amBunny, I personally believe that your tinfoil theory is quite a bit less likely than mafia NK and docsave. It's simpler, requires less assumptions and twisting to get it to work. Also given the people who are likeliest to be aliens, the alien team doesn't seem like it's likely to be lacking *that* much experience. If damo was conspiracy theorist I'd say your theory would be much more likely, but he's not a direct threat and I expect aliens to save their kill for the endgame.
Correct, although from what I've heard so far there's a significantly better reason for celaph than Macca.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:21 amyupHamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 amSo far, after reading Brain, Bunny, kgray, ghug, and Bona over, seems like
a) there's a bunch of role stuff that's pissing me off because some of you seem to be running some permutations ...and
b) Macca or Celaph might be D4 kills?
No...but you didn't understand the response. The tinfoil theory is that the aliens tried to kill damo, because there's no way they wanted him alive and unroleblocked.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 amDid you ignore my message WHERE I QUOTED AND HIGHLIGHTED DAMO SAYING HE WAS DOC SAVEDBunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:19 amThat's also a good point.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:17 amBunny, I personally believe that your tinfoil theory is quite a bit less likely than mafia NK and docsave. It's simpler, requires less assumptions and twisting to get it to work. Also given the people who are likeliest to be aliens, the alien team doesn't seem like it's likely to be lacking *that* much experience. If damo was conspiracy theorist I'd say your theory would be much more likely, but he's not a direct threat and I expect aliens to save their kill for the endgame.
Bunny's theory is that Macca performs NK, doc saves damo, aliens NK damo, aliens RB Macca. It is functional, but complex and imo significantly less likely than the alternative.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 amDid you ignore my message WHERE I QUOTED AND HIGHLIGHTED DAMO SAYING HE WAS DOC SAVEDBunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:19 amThat's also a good point.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:17 amBunny, I personally believe that your tinfoil theory is quite a bit less likely than mafia NK and docsave. It's simpler, requires less assumptions and twisting to get it to work. Also given the people who are likeliest to be aliens, the alien team doesn't seem like it's likely to be lacking *that* much experience. If damo was conspiracy theorist I'd say your theory would be much more likely, but he's not a direct threat and I expect aliens to save their kill for the endgame.
This might be true, but I know one of these is definitely town and it's not Macca.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 amCorrect, although from what I've heard so far there's a significantly better reason for celaph than Macca.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:21 amyupHamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 amSo far, after reading Brain, Bunny, kgray, ghug, and Bona over, seems like
a) there's a bunch of role stuff that's pissing me off because some of you seem to be running some permutations ...and
b) Macca or Celaph might be D4 kills?
but this doesn't implicate macca? im confusedBobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:27 amBunny's theory is that Macca performs NK, doc saves damo, aliens NK damo, aliens RB Macca. It is functional, but complex and imo significantly less likely than the alternative.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 amDid you ignore my message WHERE I QUOTED AND HIGHLIGHTED DAMO SAYING HE WAS DOC SAVED
Why do assume the alien team doesn't have a lot of experience? At the very least HR was on it, and he's one of the most experienced players here, no?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:21 am
It is a reasonable alternative. So the mafia decided that damo's role is a threat to them? And the aliens decided to try and clear a dead man walking instead of dealing with an existential threat? This suggests the aliens don't have a lot of experience knowing that HR was dead even if he had been the jailor.
It also suggests the mafia team has no goons (not that they could have many). And that there is no SK, as an SK would never target damo.
Also that the mafia may not have any underdogs. It would have been clear to use a RB on a doctor last night to kill damo? That leaves: Governor, and Strongman?
Everything bob (and others) have said is true. This theory requires the assumption that the aliens tried to kill damo.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:29 ambut this doesn't implicate macca? im confusedBobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:27 amBunny's theory is that Macca performs NK, doc saves damo, aliens NK damo, aliens RB Macca. It is functional, but complex and imo significantly less likely than the alternative.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 am
Did you ignore my message WHERE I QUOTED AND HIGHLIGHTED DAMO SAYING HE WAS DOC SAVED
Why the fuck would aliens not hold itBunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 amEverything bob (and others) have said is true. This theory requires the assumption that the aliens tried to kill damo.
But if that is correct, then where was the other NK?
Yes; just got that from re-reading Damo.BobMcBob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 amCorrect, although from what I've heard so far there's a significantly better reason for celaph than Macca.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:21 amyupHamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 amSo far, after reading Brain, Bunny, kgray, ghug, and Bona over, seems like
a) there's a bunch of role stuff that's pissing me off because some of you seem to be running some permutations ...and
b) Macca or Celaph might be D4 kills?
I dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 amMacca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.
But they didn't understand the full implications.
BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
kgray wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 amWhy do assume the alien team doesn't have a lot of experience? At the very least HR was on it, and he's one of the most experienced players here, no?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:21 am
It is a reasonable alternative. So the mafia decided that damo's role is a threat to them? And the aliens decided to try and clear a dead man walking instead of dealing with an existential threat? This suggests the aliens don't have a lot of experience knowing that HR was dead even if he had been the jailor.
It also suggests the mafia team has no goons (not that they could have many). And that there is no SK, as an SK would never target damo.
Also that the mafia may not have any underdogs. It would have been clear to use a RB on a doctor last night to kill damo? That leaves: Governor, and Strongman?
Targeting Macca for a RB with the idea that HR was going to get off? Why put HR in this position at all? I don't see a comfortable and experienced scum team here. I see either a scum team that feels cornered or one that is inexperienced.
What no mafia goons?
No. All but one are claimed discarded. Which does mean that damo is a threat to them too.
Why do you think the SK couldn't just be holding?
To what end? Do they not want to speed up the clock?
And why no underdogs?
Where are their actions? If mafia targeted damo and we had Hamilton as a known cop, why was Hamilton not roleblocked. I don't know if it was Hamilton that saved damo, but it seems foolish to both not use the strongman (if extant) AND not use a roleblock on the known doctor.
Basically where are any of these assumptions coming from?
Elementary, dear Watson.
PanicBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:33 amWhy the fuck would aliens not hold it
Panic doesn't last a full night phaseBunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 amPanic
Ah well, celaph is currently much more appealing. But needs must run through the finish line. Luck favors the prepared.kgray wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 amI dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 amMacca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.
But they didn't understand the full implications.
BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
I understand that it's a scenario that could fit the facts but I don't find it particularly likely and I really dislike that there's talk of a Macca wagon just because they happened to be the aliens' RB choice.
Because it's an easy target for scum to pick without having to explain any sort of actual read. I'm surprised you're not supporting thisghug wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:54 amI'm still not getting it. Spell it out to me as if I'm your intellectual equal. How is confessing they were roleblocked confessing to being mafia?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 amMacca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.
But they didn't understand the full implications.
BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
