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Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:14 pm
by ghug
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:38 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:01 pm
OFFICIAL GAME INFORMATION:
Town has picked 9, 10 or 11 roses.

M68 Has started. You may now post. Day1 will end in 48 hours.
LMAO this town is so bitchmade

randvoting a gunner = 60-100% chance to hit mafia

##VOTE brainbomb

voting Chaqa day 2

cya in M69
##VOTE Eden

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:15 pm
by brainbomb
Can you respond to my arguments instead of telling me to go take a nap?

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:16 pm
by ghug
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:59 pm
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:52 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:44 pm
I guess I am confused. You seem agitated/enthralled at the same time that town has elected to mass choose roses. And yet you have zero evidence to suggest that a scum would not choose a rose out of the sheer challenge of it
They could have, but they're not a factor in the info we have, which is that 9-11 Town-aligned players - out of a total of 11 - chose rose. Taking out pregame claimed gunners is a pretty good starting spot with that info. That's where we're at right now.

I think the choice of gun or rose is based predominantly on individual risk tolerances and predicted interactions with other players, and not per se alignment indicative, but that info is quite damning.
The info you think you have is completely useless because it is being based off of pregame chatter which isn't even part of this actual game thread. if you were to make a case and explain it to another player, you would have to link them to the pregame thread and say, look here is where brainbomb claimed something he would do regardless of alignment.

What is interesting is you didn't ask yourself if I would change my mind, if I would actually do the right thing, or if this was all meant to just get brain to claim his item immediately at game start. Either way, this was poorly considered on your part and if you really plan to exile me day one for something I didn't actually say IN THIS THREAD, then we probably should look into whether there should even be a pregame phase at all.

And for the record I will not say if I lied in pregame about my intentions. I will also not say what item I chose. This is a wonderful setup where guess what.

I
Dont
Have
Anything
Relevant
or
Interesting
To Claim

FOR ONCE
I'm the cop.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 pm
by ghug
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:03 pm
the funny thing is I dont think any of these three are scum, because there wont be very many free miskills in this game if this is the best option scum is gonna have. What is the math on how many miskills we get if scum kill 2 ppl every night thru eon3
##VOTE brain

Spelling "through" as "thru" is something typically done by fast food restaurants.
Fast food restaurants have created a real health crisis in America.
This is scummy.
QED

Did anyone bring doughnuts?

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 pm
by ghug
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:04 pm
Johnny Big Horse wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:48 pm
What are the chances of the mafia winning if everyone has roses? I would think very small.
Are you excited about scum having almost no chance here?
Dislike this post but it did make me realize that Horsey's post was kinda scummy so I also like it.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:19 pm
by brainbomb
yes. I brought the ones with powdered sugar that jizz blast all over your shirt when you take a bite

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:19 pm
by Hamilton Brian
Right; just over an hour in and there’s 55 posts with almost 80% generated by 2 people. What was the gist of today’s thread over on the master thread?

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:21 pm
by brainbomb
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:19 pm
Right; just over an hour in and there’s 55 posts with almost 80% generated by 2 people. What was the gist of today’s thread over on the master thread?
I think they all decided that they wanted to kill me for pregame comments, and assume that id never lie or have a change of heart. And some probably just wanted me to post a fuckload so that nothing will ever be done differently on here and the community will just ward away new people by being total shitheads.

Or they just think I'm scum and there is zero consequences in their minds about losing the game rapidly

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:22 pm
by ghug
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:11 pm
move your vote or you are admitting to being scum who is so pathetically desperate you would target me for something I didn't even say in this current game. show me on what page OF THIS THREAD where I said I chose a gun
Lol brain is definitely scum.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:22 pm
by brainbomb
Vecna is likely in god thread lamenting about how it didn't take long for brainbomb to meltdown, and is probably musing that it is all my fault for making the pregame thread into an extension of the game itself.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:23 pm
by ghug
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:22 pm
Vecna is likely in god thread lamenting about how it didn't take long for brainbomb to meltdown, and is probably musing that it is all my fault for making the pregame thread into an extension of the game itself.
Well, like, yeah.

You must have known you'd be expected to have a gun. Acting like it didn't matter doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:24 pm
by brainbomb
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:19 pm
Right; just over an hour in and there’s 55 posts with almost 80% generated by 2 people. What was the gist of today’s thread over on the master thread?
actually this is a pretty weak post. why do you want to perpetuate discussion about things that don't have anything to do with business at hand?

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:25 pm
by brainbomb
ghug wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:23 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:22 pm
Vecna is likely in god thread lamenting about how it didn't take long for brainbomb to meltdown, and is probably musing that it is all my fault for making the pregame thread into an extension of the game itself.
Well, like, yeah.

You must have known you'd be expected to have a gun. Acting like it didn't matter doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I feel like people want me to claim whether I do or not, and policy elimination will fall on me regardless of what I actually chose, regardless of what effort I put in today. That to me seems like a broken game.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:28 pm
by brainbomb
I did not think that we would start the game by trying to force brainbomb to claim either, considering that is historically what everyone has disliked the absolute most about my play: ESPECIALLY Jamie. who absolutely abhors how much I cant resist claiming my roles, my items, and giving away all my info. he hates that. so what motive can he have here other than to do exactly the opposite of what he supposedly wants to do. Which leads me to assume his push on me is personal and for out of game reasons. His attempts to silence me, dismiss my ideas in other places, and in general this type of attitude towards me happens every game like clockwork.

I was just taken aback by the fact that pregame comments are being used to sort the game into a math problem rather than a actual hunt.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:29 pm
by brainbomb
simulatenously pushing four different narratives
  • bb posts too much
    bb should be silent
    lets kill bb for pregame pledge to grab a gun
    we should not discuss anything else at all

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:31 pm
by brainbomb
this seems to be a systemic flaw with the game of mafia that people who try to produce valid reasoning for why they are being victimized makes that person look scummy for fighting back. or scummy for trying. or scummy for being agitated. scummy for explaining themself.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:32 pm
by President Eden
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:59 pm
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:52 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:44 pm
I guess I am confused. You seem agitated/enthralled at the same time that town has elected to mass choose roses. And yet you have zero evidence to suggest that a scum would not choose a rose out of the sheer challenge of it
They could have, but they're not a factor in the info we have, which is that 9-11 Town-aligned players - out of a total of 11 - chose rose. Taking out pregame claimed gunners is a pretty good starting spot with that info. That's where we're at right now.

I think the choice of gun or rose is based predominantly on individual risk tolerances and predicted interactions with other players, and not per se alignment indicative, but that info is quite damning.
The info you think you have is completely useless because it is being based off of pregame chatter which isn't even part of this actual game thread. if you were to make a case and explain it to another player, you would have to link them to the pregame thread and say, look here is where brainbomb claimed something he would do regardless of alignment.

What is interesting is you didn't ask yourself if I would change my mind, if I would actually do the right thing, or if this was all meant to just get brain to claim his item immediately at game start. Either way, this was poorly considered on your part and if you really plan to exile me day one for something I didn't actually say IN THIS THREAD, then we probably should look into whether there should even be a pregame phase at all.

And for the record I will not say if I lied in pregame about my intentions. I will also not say what item I chose. This is a wonderful setup where guess what.

I
Dont
Have
Anything
Relevant
or
Interesting
To Claim

FOR ONCE
Actually, you claiming to have a rose would be somewhat interesting and definitely relevant. So would you explaining your thought process behind the gun/rose decision and your pregame comments. At least, it'd be interesting to me.
ghug wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:13 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:04 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:01 pm
OFFICIAL GAME INFORMATION:
Town has picked 9, 10 or 11 roses.
That's a lot of roses. Not many guns in play means this will actually be a fairly vanilla game. Ghug will be delighted.
Vanilla game where I have a gun is the best of both worlds.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:33 pm
by e.m.c^42
Lol what the hell did Jamie do to brain this time.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:34 pm
by brainbomb
Due to game size, I reconsidered my pregame promise. I will not say what I chose.

But I was quite aware that me being a hero is a hell of a lot less important than me just doing the right thing. Doesnt mean I picked a rose, doesn't mean I picked a gun. Just means I certainly was aware that we could win this game without any kill power.

Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:35 pm
by President Eden
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:25 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:23 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:22 pm
Vecna is likely in god thread lamenting about how it didn't take long for brainbomb to meltdown, and is probably musing that it is all my fault for making the pregame thread into an extension of the game itself.
Well, like, yeah.

You must have known you'd be expected to have a gun. Acting like it didn't matter doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I feel like people want me to claim whether I do or not, and policy elimination will fall on me regardless of what I actually chose, regardless of what effort I put in today. That to me seems like a broken game.
I'm gonna level with you, I didn't read the setup (imagine doing that lol!) and had no idea we were going to be given a range of Town-aligned people who were given roses. I am not sure if knowing that those people are Town-aligned is good for the game, but at the same time I imagine the expected number of roses was much lower.