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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:30 am
by ghug
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:28 am
Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:27 am
celaph wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:26 am
Could always just reply to a message and write +1.
I hereby pledge to never vote Bona if he does this for every post he'd normally plus one, on the proviso he makes a separate post for every time he says it
I feel bad for whoever set the individual posting record last game, I thought that was gonna stand forever but apparently it'll last just one game.
I feel bad for me for a great many reasons, but this is not one of them.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:31 am
by Donny Dude
I am alive?
yesno yesno?
Maniac can you read palms?
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:32 am
by President Eden
Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:29 am
drunkposting time?
drunkposting time!
(ama)
How does it feel to roll mafia and get caught instantly?
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:33 am
by ghug
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:30 am
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:22 am
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:21 am
Start of game shitposting aside, this is a scum line of thought IMO. (In a vacuum outside of applied context)
The thought that wasting your vote is bad?
No. In a vacuum a person that wasted a vote (ESPECIALLY if the previous judgement was a townie), is in most scenarios going to be bad or misguided town. In addition, unless the offender was a wagon the previous day, it would be a low info judgement (not a D1 counterwagon, not clearing up a wagon with multiple votes).
TBH, it's the old 'promise of future activity' and 'push lurks/ineffective townies' plots all in one.
But it's like 30 minutes into D1, so w/e. Trying to get some legit points in amongst the noise.
Oh man, it's damo's shitty math all over again. Where's aaro when you need him?
Two points:
1. Pushing lurkers/ineffective townies is great. I'll only be voting useless people for a couple days after we flip mechanically confirmed scum Vecna.
2. Maniac behaves pretty much solely to get the behavior he wants out of other people. The point he's making is simply that wasting your vote is bad, which is true.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:34 am
by Tom Bombadil
GM NOTE:
Trying to fix the bot.
Day 1 has moved 35 days later
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:35 am
by Donny Dude
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:34 am
GM NOTE:
Trying to fix the bot.
Day 1 has moved 35 days later
Excellent work!
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:39 am
by Hellenic Riot
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:34 am
GM NOTE:
Trying to fix the bot.
Day 1 has moved 35 days later
It's like playing a no-hammer game with multiple confirmed mafia all over again
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:39 am
by DemonRHK
If you keep all the shepards and sell all the shhep your business will go under.
I feel killing town for the sake of them being considered 'useless' is a quick way to spot scum an advantage. Hard telegraphing is just as poor.
Has the meta shifted that hard in that few games?
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:40 am
by Bonatogether
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:24 am
celaph wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:23 am
Glad that the tunnel on me continues. Rather curious to see what you do with +1s unfortunately banned.
He'll graduate to "like this post".
appreciate this comment
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:42 am
by Bonatogether
+1
I don't want to clutter up the thread with a bunch of +1s, so I probably won't do it as much.
Why are +1s even banned?
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:43 am
by aarodactyl
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:33 am
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:30 am
ghug wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:22 am
The thought that wasting your vote is bad?
No. In a vacuum a person that wasted a vote (ESPECIALLY if the previous judgement was a townie), is in most scenarios going to be bad or misguided town. In addition, unless the offender was a wagon the previous day, it would be a low info judgement (not a D1 counterwagon, not clearing up a wagon with multiple votes).
TBH, it's the old 'promise of future activity' and 'push lurks/ineffective townies' plots all in one.
But it's like 30 minutes into D1, so w/e. Trying to get some legit points in amongst the noise.
Oh man, it's damo's shitty math all over again. Where's aaro when you need him?
Two points:
1. Pushing lurkers/ineffective townies is great. I'll only be voting useless people for a couple days after we flip mechanically confirmed scum Vecna.
2. Maniac behaves pretty much solely to get the behavior he wants out of other people. The point he's making is simply that wasting your vote is bad, which is true.
I don't know Demon at all, but I'd say this falls into the realm of speculation instead of damo math. However, as soon as they start to throw some numbers into it, I'll be sure to revisit it.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:45 am
by aarodactyl
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:39 am
If you keep all the shepards and sell all the shhep your business will go under.
I feel killing town for the sake of them being considered 'useless' is a quick way to spot scum an advantage. Hard telegraphing is just as poor.
Has the meta shifted that hard in that few games?
I have very little knowledge of the meta, but I'll have to say, even though he had a high post count, it felt like Chaqa was able to win the last game by lurking for the early game.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:46 am
by aarodactyl
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:42 am
+1
I don't want to clutter up the thread with a bunch of +1s, so I probably won't do it as much.
Why are +1s even banned?
People talked about this turn last game I think. It was partly due to the fact that the old forums didn't let you know who +1ed posts, so dead people were illegally communicating with it.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:46 am
by BunnyGo
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:00 am
Last game:
President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:58 pm
VOTING
There are two types of voting within this game: collective voting to execute perceived Mafia in Day phases, and Mafia faction actions.
Daykill vote: The first type of voting is for all players during the day, in which you vote for whom you intend to kill. Notate this vote with a pair of hash symbols before your intended vote target
(e.g., ##VOTE bo_sox48).
You do not need to spell out your intended target's username fully; as long as the GM can understand who you're referencing. However, if there is a player that the bot does not quite understand without being spelled out in full, it would be helpful for everyone if you could spell their name out in full when voting for them. If in doubt, spell it out!
In the event of a tie during a Daykill vote, no one shall be killed.
dargorygel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:38 pm
##GM NOTE
On this 'Murican Thanksgiving... we have a replacement.
Jamiet99uk has replaced bo_sox48
President Eden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:09 pm
JAMIET99UK has DIED. He was a ROLEBLOCKER of the EDEN LOYALISTS.
This game:
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:07 pm
VOTING
There are three types of voting within this game: collective voting to execute perceived Mafia in Day phases, collective voting to end a Day or Night phase, and Mafia voting to kill town members in Night phases.
“Day Kill” vote: The first level of voting is for whom you intend to kill. Notate this vote with a pair of hash symbols before your intended vote target. (e.g.,
##VOTE VECNA) You do not need to spell out your intended target's username fully; as long as the GM can understand who you're referencing. In the event of a tie during an execution vote, no one shall be killed.
##VOTE Vecna
If you disagree with me you're not only wrong, you are also defying the wisdom of Tom, the god of this game. I'd hate to be you!
So, last game I was scum and feared that you'd accidentally slipped and singled out bo. But then I went back and saw that in at least one recent game he'd been the example given for all the votes. So I didn't bring it up (unlike the pressure I put on Chaqa and Jimbo for things I thought I saw).
But this seems a stretch to me. Tom isn't known for slips like this. And unlike last time when bo was used in every example, he used Zultar later. I'd be very careful using this argument. And I think you would be careful too.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:47 am
by aarodactyl
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:32 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:29 am
drunkposting time?
drunkposting time!
(ama)
How does it feel to roll mafia and get caught instantly?
Also, in case you aren't able to catch up with the game, we know you're scum because yoyo got a scan on you.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:47 am
by Tom Bombadil
GM NOTE:
We are working on the bot, but don't have an immediate fix. We will get it sorted shortly
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:47 am
by BunnyGo
President Eden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:03 am
Tom this looks like an awesome setting, I'm excited.
I'm just going to get my
Gunner HARD-CLAIM out of the way now. If you're Scourge I'm puttin one right thru your gross lookin alien faces. If you're a good guy... well I can't make any promises but I won't shoot ya on purpose, probably.
Also I have a MedBay scan!!!
Starting strong and hard. ##vote Pres
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:47 am
by DemonRHK
aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:45 am
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:39 am
If you keep all the shepards and sell all the shhep your business will go under.
I feel killing town for the sake of them being considered 'useless' is a quick way to spot scum an advantage. Hard telegraphing is just as poor.
Has the meta shifted that hard in that few games?
I have very little knowledge of the meta, but I'll have to say, even though he had a high post count, it felt like Chaqa was able to win the last game by lurking for the early game.
Fair enough. Mostly I just think in more cases than not it's seems likke a subpar strategy in most cases, but it all comes down to how intelligently iy's applied. Heaven knows I'd fuck it up, hence my hesitation.
At least a few people are talking, tho.
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:48 am
by Durga
Woooow Tom how could you do that to Vecna
Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:48 am
by ND
Donny Dude wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:31 am
I am alive?
yesno yesno?
Maniac can you read palms?
palm reading is satanic