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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:29 pm
by Vecna
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:39 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:15 am
I should probably reflect how good rdrivera actually looks in a world where Fox is town
Well, I always scumread Fox when he is PR (last time we both were we fought until it was obvious). He is far from confirmed but I agree with your take on GMs message, which is not great, but we can't ignore it.
I still think Ghug is Alien, I just don't feel any passion at all on him, even as scum he would at least be pissed with Brain and an overpowered Alien. Not sure I want to go all on on this. Maybe just killing Damo and having another night is the safe play, I really don't know here, trusting scum isn't great too.
@Vecna, would you try to convince us Worcej is the Alien?
I was sort of voting him to make scum nervous. for shits n giggles like
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:03 pm
by ghug
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:10 pm
We know item thief is alive so I think the possible combos are
ALIEN ---- ITEM THIEF ----- SCUM PARTNER
Bob ------- ghug -------------- worcej/Maniac/rdr
Bob ------- worcej ----------- ghug/Maniac/rdr
worcej ---- ghug ------------- Maniac/rdr
ghug ------- worcej ---------- Maniac/rdr
@Jamie @Vecna @Fox
thoughts?
Why are you ignoring mafia Vecna entirely?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:14 pm
by Vecna
because the only way I can be scum is if both the gm has lied a third time and fox is scum with me
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:15 pm
by Vecna
(note; the above post is hyperbole. <3 darg)
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:23 pm
by ghug
I don't follow.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:40 pm
by Vecna
you even still reading the game ghug?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:42 pm
by Vecna
what dont you follow?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:43 pm
by ghug
Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:44 pm
by ghug
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:42 pm
what dont you follow?
It's unclear to me whether there's actually some mechanical nuance I'm missing that clears you or if you're just being Vecna.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm
by damo666
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:43 pm
Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?
I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:52 pm
by ghug
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:43 pm
Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?
I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:47 pm
Current count
T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)
scum allow my miskill
5 2 1 4 4
N6 scum kill town infectee
4 2 1 3 4
but alien infects so
4 2 1 4 3 alien wins
So scum must NK/target alien
5 2 1 4 4
but alien infects
5 2 1 5 3 alien wins
SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN
The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm
by Jamiet99uk
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:52 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:43 pm
Damo, why did you give up on asserting that there were five infected people when nobody was calling you on it?
I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:47 pm
Current count
T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)
scum allow my miskill
5 2 1 4 4
N6 scum kill town infectee
4 2 1 3 4
but alien infects so
4 2 1 4 3 alien wins
So scum must NK/target alien
5 2 1 4 4
but alien infects
5 2 1 5 3 alien wins
SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN
The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking
That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:52 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm
I don't understand. There can't be 5 or would be game over.
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:47 pm
Current count
T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)
scum allow my miskill
5 2 1 4 4
N6 scum kill town infectee
4 2 1 3 4
but alien infects so
4 2 1 4 3 alien wins
So scum must NK/target alien
5 2 1 4 4
but alien infects
5 2 1 5 3 alien wins
SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN
The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking
That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.
He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Maniac wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:14 am
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:08 am
Vecna cannot be alien unless dead infectee so tomorrow you should vote within
worcej ghug Bob
Examining each in turn as alien my guess at scum pair is as follows:
ALIEN ----------------- Mafia
Bob ‐---------------- ghug and worcej
ghug ------------------ worcej and struggling
Worcej -------‐----------- ghug and struggling
Bob must be the alien
##vote Bob
You’ve surpassed your worst logic ever post from earlier. If it wasn’t for Jamie trying to kill unCC’d PR you’d stand alone as LVP
Excuse me, technically a PR who had been CC'd by an incorrect GM "clarification" which has now been reversed.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:52 pm
The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking
That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.
He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.
If you can't work out what "A" and "I" stand for in that context, I'm sorry for you.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:25 pm
by damo666
We are currently 3 + Alien max
implies 2 dead infectees (celaph + ?) or alien went for a kill and failed (unlikely)
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:27 pm
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:22 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm
That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.
He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.
If you can't work out what "A" and "I" stand for in that context, I'm sorry for you.
Exactly.
The A&I number in that post is 5, not 4, and it's not a mistake because it predicated the rest of the logic. At the time I thought he was just trying to make things seem more dire than they were, which seemed like a good thing to do, but then he dropped it, and I want to know why.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:28 pm
by damo666
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:52 pm
The desperate attempt to fearmonger was one of the few bits of your play I was liking
That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.
He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.
Correct but starting point should have read 6 2 1 4 5
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:30 pm
by ghug
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:28 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:20 pm
That's four infectees plus Alien, not five.
He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.
Correct but starting point should have read 6 2 1 4 5
But all the numbers follow from the first ones, as do the conclusions. Did you actually just fuck it up that badly?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:36 pm
by damo666
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:27 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:22 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm
He told me that A&I was infected count and N was uninfected count.
If you can't work out what "A" and "I" stand for in that context, I'm sorry for you.
Exactly.
The A&I number in that post is 5, not 4, and it's not a mistake because it predicated the rest of the logic. At the time I thought he was just trying to make things seem more dire than they were, which seemed like a good thing to do, but then he dropped it, and I want to know why.
It worked on Jamie!
Just an error in the top line which followed through and I got all excited.