M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

Yeah so snowy can't be 3P because on N3 my cheese was taken and he was RB'd that night - and he could only be lying about that if he's mafia.

[Hamilton Brian]

Maybe it’s not food. I’m getting more suspicious of Hamilton so he can have food’s spot on my scum guesses.

Hamilton are you busy irl?

Yes.

[snowy801]

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Updated tracker, Snowy is not clear edition!

Obviously just because there's a confluence of opinions doesn't mean it's right...

But you know, I kinda wanted to do this to illustrate why maybe voting out foodcoats is not the best idea today, among other things.

I think the decision should be to vote Maniac/Jamiet, and hot salsa Vecna who will have given away all his items (if nobody receives the hot salsa at night, we auto hammer him tomorrow).

I think there is no reason to rush to a conclusion, as we have over 24 hours left in the phase, but that is where I stand at the moment.

[bozotheclown]

I'd like everyone's best guesses at 3P and 2 scums. No waffles, no maybe any of these people could be it.

One 3P, 2 scum names. Please.

I already have Vecna, damo, bozo's, though feel free to repeat/change.

Hmmm

Vecna 3P

Jamie and… kgray scum

This make we wonder if foodcoats and kgray could be the mafia.

[Hamilton Brian]

Jamie and… kgray scum

This make we wonder if foodcoats and kgray could be the mafia.
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How so?

My tracking of kgraybrainbomblfischl on night 3 doesn't totally clear them, but it does suggest they didn't go anywhere N3. Hooker goes to tamper with person's food so I assume they have to travel to do that. Item cop just chooses a player and finds out what item they have. Does that involve travelling that would give a positive to the tracker?

[kgray]

I'd like everyone's best guesses at 3P and 2 scums. No waffles, no maybe any of these people could be it.

One 3P, 2 scum names. Please.

I already have Vecna, damo, bozo's, though feel free to repeat/change.

Hmmm

Vecna 3P

Jamie and… kgray scum

This make we wonder if foodcoats and kgray could be the mafia.

Yes, we decided we'd have the same mutual scumread and would vote him together, by ourselves, while being wishy-washy about scumreading each other. Top strats.

[bozotheclown]

Jamie and… kgray scum

This make we wonder if foodcoats and kgray could be the mafia.

How so?

My tracking of kgraybrainbomblfischl on night 3 doesn't totally clear them, but it does suggest they didn't go anywhere N3. Hooker goes to tamper with person's food so I assume they have to travel to do that. Item cop just chooses a player and finds out what item they have. Does that involve travelling that would give a positive to the tracker?
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I was just saying foodcoats could be bussing kgray. foodcoats could be the hooker and kgray could be the item cop. I think the item cop would counts as a trackable visit, but with the item copier gone, the item cop would probably not visit anyone (as foodcoats pointed out).

[snowy801]

Yes, we decided we'd have the same mutual scumread and would vote him together, by ourselves, while being wishy-washy about scumreading each other. Top strats.

She admits it! Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Easy game.

[bozotheclown]

Hmmm

Vecna 3P

Jamie and… kgray scum

This make we wonder if foodcoats and kgray could be the mafia.

Yes, we decided we'd have the same mutual scumread and would vote him together, by ourselves, while being wishy-washy about scumreading each other. Top strats.

The more unexpected, the better the bus.

[bozotheclown]

What stands out to me in snowy's chart, though, is that Jamie and Maniac do not suspect each other.

[kgray]

What stands out to me in snowy's chart, though, is that Jamie and Maniac do not suspect each other.

I want to know why Maniac is going after Rivera. It seems too contrived. I get being suspicious, and it's fun to tinfoil and I don't think Rivera is *totally* clear. But having him as one of his top two scum candidates just makes me think he's trying to do wacky things.

[Maniac]

@Snowy

My picks would be foodcoats for 3P and HamB for Mafia. I know I’m going to be solo person who thinks this, but I think Rdr could be HamB’s scum buddy

Rivera is your best guess at Hamilton's partner? Is that because POE or you just think he's scummy? I can't imagine scum giving out the cop item to a confirmed townie after the godfather dies. There's no way that towncred is worth more than the risk of scum getting scanned, imo.

Well if it is HamB and Rdr - maybe they figured HamB wasn’t ever likely to get scanned and the chance of Rdr being scanned would be next to zero. Maybe I’m just being paranoid idk

[kgray]

@Snowy

My picks would be foodcoats for 3P and HamB for Mafia. I know I’m going to be solo person who thinks this, but I think Rdr could be HamB’s scum buddy

Rivera is your best guess at Hamilton's partner? Is that because POE or you just think he's scummy? I can't imagine scum giving out the cop item to a confirmed townie after the godfather dies. There's no way that towncred is worth more than the risk of scum getting scanned, imo.

Well if it is HamB and Rdr - maybe they figured HamB wasn’t ever likely to get scanned and the chance of Rdr being scanned would be next to zero. Maybe I’m just being paranoid idk

It's plausible, it just surprises (and concerns?) me that you think that's more likely than someone else being mafia. I do think Tom trying to give Hamilton not-mafia cred is more likely than Rivera being mafia.

[Hamilton Brian]

Rivera is your best guess at Hamilton's partner? Is that because POE or you just think he's scummy? I can't imagine scum giving out the cop item to a confirmed townie after the godfather dies. There's no way that towncred is worth more than the risk of scum getting scanned, imo.

Well if it is HamB and Rdr - maybe they figured HamB wasn’t ever likely to get scanned and the chance of Rdr being scanned would be next to zero. Maybe I’m just being paranoid idk

It's plausible, it just surprises (and concerns?) me that you think that's more likely than someone else being mafia. I do think Tom trying to give Hamilton not-mafia cred is more likely than Rivera being mafia.

I know it's within the realm of desperation play but I think people are reading Tom's words so hard. It's been proven I am not 3P AND Tom would have been trying to protect the remaining 2 teammates.

The three we are looking for are in here: Food, Jamie, kgray, macca, maniac

[Hamilton Brian]

And maybe Vecna as 3P but I think that was disproven somewhere along the way. Too many moving pieces to keep up with which makes the Snowy chart a nice idea...in theory.

[snowy801]

Why just in theory? The chart does not put you anywhere near top, and puts your 3P/Scum reads top. Shouldn't you be happy with it in practice?

[snowy801]

Incidentally, you never answered me about whether you still scum read Bozo knowing he was inno scanned by damo, and if not then who?

[kgray]

Snowy why’d you townread brain so hard?

[Chaqa]

##GM Note:
For the rest of this day phase, please send all PMs to Eden as well. He will be handling EoD tomorrow.

[Chaqa]

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