M1012 Redux

[Durga]

HB why are you going back to your whole I'm a newbie shtick.

God, can someone else please weigh in?

[Hamilton Brian]

HB why are you going back to your whole I'm a newbie shtick.

God, can someone else please weigh in?

Because I'd really like to know. What value to the town do you see in having the cop reveal themselves?

[Durga]

I already said why. If you need me to repeat: cop may generally be useless bc scan cannot be confirmed + might be better to have a confirmed townie here.

But Jamie might be right that it may be better further down the game instead of right now. Idk. I'm not gonna repeat this again. It is not scummy to suggest this. It might be wrong, but let's move on now.

##vote Hamilton

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

[summit_fever]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

Do you think Bozo continues to push for Vecna during night 1 while intending to nightkill him?

It is strange to leave a townclear alive when you can guarantee the kill. Vecna was still a possibility for a mislynch.

[summit_fever]

@Summit, how did you feel when Vecna changed their vote from you to Flash? Subsequently, why did you then change your vote from Vecna to Flash?

I thought it was less likely I was going to be mislynched. I was okay with voting either one of flash or vecna and I wanted to put as much pressure as possible on one of them.

[summit_fever]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

Is there a reason I've been dropped from your day 2 targets?

[Jamiet99uk]

Did I not explain myself?

You said, "Trying to out the Cop who is the one remaining PR threat to Mafia, especially if she used her mask last night and is worried the Cop held their scan."

I guess it's a reasonable question a newer player might ask is, why would someone take such a blatant action?

Another read-through I need to do is what Bozo posted this morning.

That was one of the things I said. That was part of my reasoning. Why is it difficult for you to read all of my posts? There are not all that many pages, and the other relevant posts are all within the last 2 or 3 pages, since Day 2 began.

[Jamiet99uk]

I already said why. If you need me to repeat: cop may generally be useless bc scan cannot be confirmed + might be better to have a confirmed townie here.

But Jamie might be right that it may be better further down the game instead of right now. Idk. I'm not gonna repeat this again. It is not scummy to suggest this. It might be wrong, but let's move on now.

##vote Hamilton

Have you stopped scumreading Bozo?

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

Do you think Bozo continues to push for Vecna during night 1 while intending to nightkill him?

It is strange to leave a townclear alive when you can guarantee the kill. Vecna was still a possibility for a mislynch.

I can answer this but I want to hear from other players first, specially Bozo himself.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

Is there a reason I've been dropped from your day 2 targets?

You voted Flash to put him on the lead, forcing the claim. Could be bussing but less likely.

[bozotheclown]

Also no point in rbing one shot cop tonight, I am sure scum simply masked themself

How do you know the Cop used their ability?

I don't. If they haven't maybe it's best not to reveal. I'm sure they can figure that out themselves. I just think the fact that we can not ever rely on the scan makes it so that they're better off as a town clear. You're free to disagree, but calm down and think for a second.

The cop can always claim if they are at risk of getting killed, there is no reason to reveal otherwise, since the clear is more valuable later if the cop survives and stays hidden. The cop may even get a guilty scan if he can survive long enough. As soon as the cop reveals, he will just be NKed.

[bozotheclown]

Gosh darn my brilliant scum play to bus and get my only partner lynched when I could have had my pick of a town wagon is FOILED because I suggested it's better to have two town clears right now.

Dammmmmnnnnnnnnnn I quit.

There are players who would bus like that for town credit, but I do not think you are one of them.

[bozotheclown]

Yeah, you're right. I forgot I posted that. Unbelievable, I know, and totally casts me in a scummy light. I know I posted a couple of things that I think were before GM said stop posting. I'm not going to go back through to those posts to see when exactly it was. It doesn't accomplish anything other than me trying to continue to defend myself against my own ineptness.

Besides the 2 posts you did make N1, you also posted 14 times N1 in the game that was canceled, so it is hard to believe you did not think you could post at night.

[bozotheclown]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

I voted for HB because he was my top scum read, then with half an hour left in the day, I voted for Vecna because I thought he was more likely to be scum than flash or summit. When flash claimed doctor, I thought it was likely a fake claim because of the timing of the claim and because I thought Jamie was crumbing doctor when I figured out what he was quoting. I assumed Jamie was confirming he was the doctor, and I voted for flash, when Jamie posted this:

He isn't the Doctor.

Why about your VCA points to me?

[bozotheclown]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

Do you think Bozo continues to push for Vecna during night 1 while intending to nightkill him?

It is strange to leave a townclear alive when you can guarantee the kill. Vecna was still a possibility for a mislynch.

I can answer this but I want to hear from other players first, specially Bozo himself.

What do you want to hear from me?

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

I voted for HB because he was my top scum read, then with half an hour left in the day, I voted for Vecna because I thought he was more likely to be scum than flash or summit. When flash claimed doctor, I thought it was likely a fake claim because of the timing of the claim and because I thought Jamie was crumbing doctor when I figured out what he was quoting. I assumed Jamie was confirming he was the doctor, and I voted for flash, when Jamie posted this:

He isn't the Doctor.

Why about your VCA points to me?

The fact you voted Vecna when Flash was the leading wagon with a lame reasoning that he is hard to kill as scum.

[rdrivera2005]

Do you think Bozo continues to push for Vecna during night 1 while intending to nightkill him?

It is strange to leave a townclear alive when you can guarantee the kill. Vecna was still a possibility for a mislynch.

I can answer this but I want to hear from other players first, specially Bozo himself.

What do you want to hear from me?

I want to hear your analysis on what summit asked me. And also what you think the reason for Vecna being the NK and what can or can't be read from this?

[bozotheclown]

I don't think Cop should reveal unless he got a guilty scan (which is game over, so it's obvious).
We are 6-1, so we have two myslynches before Lylo, if the game not end becore and cop is still alive at lylo we improve the odds from 1/3 to 1/2.
And I am not even considering the scan because of the mask.

But I don't think Durga is scum because of bad mechanics analysis. She pushed Flash when the wagon on him was dead, she isn't the lynch today.
We should lynch between Bozo and Hamilton, the VCA from D1 point to this and they both are scummy.

##vote Bozo

I voted for HB because he was my top scum read, then with half an hour left in the day, I voted for Vecna because I thought he was more likely to be scum than flash or summit. When flash claimed doctor, I thought it was likely a fake claim because of the timing of the claim and because I thought Jamie was crumbing doctor when I figured out what he was quoting. I assumed Jamie was confirming he was the doctor, and I voted for flash, when Jamie posted this:

He isn't the Doctor.

Why about your VCA points to me?

The fact you voted Vecna when Flash was the leading wagon with a lame reasoning that he is hard to kill as scum.

That is not the reason I voted for Vecna:

The problem with Vecna is he is hard to kill if he is scum, and I think he might be here.

##VOTE Vecna

The part about me thinking he might be scum is the reason I voted for him. I had already stated the specific reasons why I thought he might be scum. The part about him being hard to kill as scum was I why thought it would be good to kill him D1, because I suspected he was scum, and I knew that if I was correct, it would be hard to kill him later.

I did not see any strong reason to suspect flash, why would I vote for him just because he was the top wagon? I could have given summit a third vote, or emc a second vote, but I did not suspect them either.

[bozotheclown]

I can answer this but I want to hear from other players first, specially Bozo himself.

What do you want to hear from me?

I want to hear your analysis on what summit asked me. And also what you think the reason for Vecna being the NK and what can or can't be read from this?

I do not think I would try that as scum, it seems too obvious. I do not know why Vecna was the NK, it could be any of a number of reasons, so I do not think we can conclude anything from it.