MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Also what do you play?

Guitar mostly, but I dabble in drums and keyboards and play(ed?) bass in my friend's band.

Oh wow that's a lot. No trombones though

No, my blowhard tendencies are limited to language.

[brainbomb]

K, I think I am not willing to vote for Celaph based on what Brain posted. And although sparse from Maniac, the above is typically how I remember him.
##vote Ghug

Huh? it was a really poorly defended ISO, lazy even for me

K, What do you make of Damo based off Hr?

[kgray]

For some reason I had impression someone wanted tie to test for vote manipulation, but apparently that was absolutely not it. Although, I suppose we can safely conclude that no one on main two wagons was target of vote ability removal.

That was absolutely not it. The target of the vote-nullifier is told that their vote will not count.

Can you do some more reads please? Even if just on tone/style like you often do?

Really I'd like to know what you think of Bunny.

Without actually bothering to click back to page one, doesn't that ability say they CAN'T vote, not that it won't count?

So you just made me go back and look??

Yeah it says they lose the ability to vote. I don't know how that would play out, because obviously they could still say ##vote Jamie or whatever and the bot probably would pick it up, but I assume the GMs wouldn't include it in the vote count?

[brainbomb]

I don't have specific sorts of scumreads on many people yet. Bona, brain, Bob, damo probably town. The rest not so much.

Why damo?

I still think it's more likely his claim is legit.

Also I forgot to put you in a maybe probably town bucket all by yourself. Sorry about that.

What made you want to vote HR right before he reappeared?

[Bonatogether]

That was absolutely not it. The target of the vote-nullifier is told that their vote will not count.

Can you do some more reads please? Even if just on tone/style like you often do?

Really I'd like to know what you think of Bunny.

Without actually bothering to click back to page one, doesn't that ability say they CAN'T vote, not that it won't count?

So you just made me go back and look??

Yeah it says they lose the ability to vote. I don't know how that would play out, because obviously they could still say ##vote Jamie or whatever and the bot probably would pick it up, but I assume the GMs wouldn't include it in the vote count?

What's the benefit, though? Spooking town by making it look like there's a tie? (I'd be down to do this)

[kgray]

This was before the mechanical scum business. What was your reasoning at the time?

I think he was faking frustration after the almost-tie D1, he was distorting the VCA from D1, he voted for someone he said he thought was playing like his town self after shading that wagon, and his scumread of me showed he wasn't thinking about things that town!HR would think about in a way that I am not willing to further elaborate on at this time.

Why won't you elaborate on this? It seems like a crucial part of your argument.

Why do you think, bona?

Sometimes you just need to be satisfied that you can't know all the answers, and that that's okay, and it's actually pro-town.

[kgray]

Without actually bothering to click back to page one, doesn't that ability say they CAN'T vote, not that it won't count?

So you just made me go back and look??

Yeah it says they lose the ability to vote. I don't know how that would play out, because obviously they could still say ##vote Jamie or whatever and the bot probably would pick it up, but I assume the GMs wouldn't include it in the vote count?

What's the benefit, though? Spooking town by making it look like there's a tie? (I'd be down to do this)

Well I assume whoever lost the ability to vote would claim that at the beginning of the day, since they are notified.

[kgray]

I think he was faking frustration after the almost-tie D1, he was distorting the VCA from D1, he voted for someone he said he thought was playing like his town self after shading that wagon, and his scumread of me showed he wasn't thinking about things that town!HR would think about in a way that I am not willing to further elaborate on at this time.

Why won't you elaborate on this? It seems like a crucial part of your argument.

Why do you think, bona?

Sometimes you just need to be satisfied that you can't know all the answers, and that that's okay, and it's actually pro-town.

And besides, it's no longer a crucial part of my argument. It helped me get there, and then what he did after that is what convinced me.

[brainbomb]

who should our next emoji project be on

[BobMcBob]

who should our next emoji project be on

How about no.

[brainbomb]

who should our next emoji project be on

How about no.

Our next project will be mentions of bob

[brainbomb]

Reread lfischl. There is like almost nothing there, quite literally. I am not overly opposed to a dk on him because of it. His ghug vote was definitely strange, but I think he may have been another person who didn't pay close attention to the setup. Overall a rather weird lurky energy, scumlean.

Town lean Bob both for this post and his other 'reread' posts. The effort is real and he looks interested in finding the truth.

[brainbomb]

Bob is terrible as scum, right?

[brainbomb]

Bob, anything strike you as askew with any of the vote switching?

[brainbomb]

Over on page 70-71, the entire discussion just rubbed me the wrong way. It was confusing and unproductive and I didn't like it, and not for any particular person I don't think. Although maybe it was jasnah being confusing and stubborn and everybody engaging with it in an equally confusing way.

What is your read on Jasnah Bob?

[brainbomb]

This is a problem I have with claiming now, ghug will be suspicious of me if I'm suddenly willing to claim. *However*, I also now have slightly more reason to claim so I don't know. So I discarded a mafia aligned role.

Tell us which and I won't be suspicious of you.

Ghug rolefishing I see.
Ghug, why do you want to know bob's discard in particular?

[brainbomb]

In terms of reads:
Likely town: you (kgray) and Bob.
Lean town: Bona, Donny, bb, and ghug. Donny is the person on this list who I remember the least of, but reading his iso he has asked a lot of good questions. This night he has done a better job turning those questions into statements which I like and hope to see more of.

[brainbomb]

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Bob: This is very very interesting. He's clearly putting in the work. But I'm worried he's an alien. He's playing exactly like I would were I scum and there was another team out there. ACTUALLY HUNTING to hide. Posting all the effort and reads. He's "obvtowning" but I'm getting a bad vibe.

celaph: I agree that in many ways he looks towny, but his posts strike me as subtly different. He's not responding the ways I predict he will. He's superficially the same, but there's a je ne sais quoi of town!celaph that isn't here yet.

damo: drunk. towny vibes, but wouldn't put in town core yet.

[brainbomb]

Townreads on Bob, brain, bona. kgray seems good, but I think she's gonna be capable of fooling me in a setup like this.

People compellingly hunting isn't a good metric for towniness in a game like this. If I somehow die, look for connections and people playing carefree.

Praying for tree stump.

[brainbomb]

Bob's been remarkably more confident in himself. As is with Bona. Bob might be scum since I recall him being one of those tonally "insecure town, suave scum" types, sort of like me. Bona's bullheadedness NAI, but probably town points for whatever he said on lfisc since it was wrong.

kgray might be scum for not bothering to defend me, since she's usually the what-if reasonable voice, but in all honesty I've been gone enough that one can't really pull it off. Null.