M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Durga]

What? I said not everyone has to be, not that no one should be.

K, and why is that then?

What's the point of having a dead game for 24 hours?

[ghug]

I'm actually fine to get flash today, but ghug actively irritating me and nitpicking weird things and doing fake contributory shit like claiming gun is likely scum!ghug

Didn't scumghug try to be nice to you last game?
Don't I do more shit they pisses people off as town?
Didn't you scumread me before I dared to ask you a question this morning?

Why are you posting at night?
Why did you scumread me overnight?

Were you nice? I don't recall that. I remember you auto town reading me which was sus.
What? What?

There's no reason for me not to post at night. Like I said, if I draw the nk it's not gonna be a big deal. Take that as you will. There's no reason for everyone to be silent at night. I don't understand why you're focused on me with this and not flum, it's fucking weird. Stop repeating yourself it's irritating

I find Flum not going with the mechanical flow less weird than you.

I'll stop repeating myself when you answer my damn questions. What caused you to very suddenly start scumreading me overnight?

[Durga]

When the fuck have I ever gone with the mechanical flow? When do I give two shits about mechanics?? Ever??

Why did you lie about having a gun?

I have no idea why you were so comfortable with a Vecna daykill.

[Durga]

You're actually just coming up with shit lmao what is up with that

[kgray]

@Durga is there a reason why ghug pretending to have a gun is scummier than other people doing it?

[ghug]

When the fuck have I ever gone with the mechanical flow? When do I give two shits about mechanics?? Ever??

Why did you lie about having a gun?

I have no idea why you were so comfortable with a Vecna daykill.

That's exactly why I'd expect you to go with the mechanical flow.

I often lie about having a gun. It's fun and it sometimes gets reactions.

Vecna was way more defensive and nervous than normal, and his behavior around Tom's gun struck me as scared scum.

[Fluminator]

Ok I don't think both Kgray and Ghug are scum.

[kgray]

Ok I don't think both Kgray and Ghug are scum.

You're correct

[kgray]

@Flum you have any updated thoughts on Donny? It looks like you've been null on him all game.

[Fluminator]

I might be suspicious of Donny if there's weren't hordes of other scummy people.

[Donny Dude]

What? I said not everyone has to be, not that no one should be.

K, and why is that then?

What's the point of having a dead game for 24 hours?

So that the jailed person is not identified.

[flash2015]

I don't have a super strong read on flash but I do think he's been fairly scummy. Voting for your counter wagon is NAI, though him justifying it by saying he wanted to vote Vecna over seth when he was on worcej previously is pretty suspect when he could have just said it was to save himself.

Wait, what? If I was scum why would I say anything here...other than to say I was voting Vecna to save myself? Or are you suggesting it was some sort of WIFOM on my part...I was trying to prove my towniness by being wrong on Vecna? This makes no sense.

I don't understand the relationship between Worcej and Vecna here. Yes, I was voting Worcej earlier but towards the end of the day you are always thinking which out of the likely wagons you will really vote on. If I remember correctly it was Seth and Vecna as counterwagons to me before the Seth wagon faded away late in the day.

[flash2015]

This post reminded me that flash did this before, I check and it was M56.
flash's pattern of voting for the same player at the beginning of D1 goes back further than when he started voting for summit D1. I suggest reading flash's D1 of M53, M55, and M56 for reference.

And his alignment those games was...?

He was mafia in M56 where he did not change his vote D1. In M53 and M55 he was town, and in those games he changed his vote during D1.

There is kind of a difference here though, isn't there? I don't remember the games and I can't be bothered going back and finding them but I suspect I changed my vote because my initial vote did not become a viable wagon. summit's wagon was viable and he was acting weird...and I always hoped to catch him as scum so I stayed on him.

[kgray]

I don't have a super strong read on flash but I do think he's been fairly scummy. Voting for your counter wagon is NAI, though him justifying it by saying he wanted to vote Vecna over seth when he was on worcej previously is pretty suspect when he could have just said it was to save himself.

Wait, what? If I was scum why would I say anything here...other than to say I was voting Vecna to save myself? Or are you suggesting it was some sort of WIFOM on my part...I was trying to prove my towniness by being wrong on Vecna? This makes no sense.

I don't understand the relationship between Worcej and Vecna here. Yes, I was voting Worcej earlier but towards the end of the day you are always thinking which out of the likely wagons you will really vote on. If I remember correctly it was Seth and Vecna as counterwagons to me before the Seth wagon faded away late in the day.

No I didn't think it was wifom, and I didn't think you were trying to be wrong on Vecna for towniness. I just thought it seemed like you were over-justifying your vote. I didn't understand why you said you wanted to vote Vecna over seth when you were voting for worcej and seth wasn't a wagon. What did you mean by that?

[kgray]

I don't have a super strong read on flash but I do think he's been fairly scummy. Voting for your counter wagon is NAI, though him justifying it by saying he wanted to vote Vecna over seth when he was on worcej previously is pretty suspect when he could have just said it was to save himself.

Wait, what? If I was scum why would I say anything here...other than to say I was voting Vecna to save myself? Or are you suggesting it was some sort of WIFOM on my part...I was trying to prove my towniness by being wrong on Vecna? This makes no sense.

I don't understand the relationship between Worcej and Vecna here. Yes, I was voting Worcej earlier but towards the end of the day you are always thinking which out of the likely wagons you will really vote on. If I remember correctly it was Seth and Vecna as counterwagons to me before the Seth wagon faded away late in the day.

No I didn't think it was wifom, and I didn't think you were trying to be wrong on Vecna for towniness. I just thought it seemed like you were over-justifying your vote. I didn't understand why you said you wanted to vote Vecna over seth when you were voting for worcej and seth wasn't a wagon. What did you mean by that?

Oh, you just answered that. Because Vecna and seth were your counter wagons earlier in the day. Okay.

[kgray]

@flash do you have any townreads?

[flash2015]

I might be suspicious of Donny if there's weren't hordes of other scummy people.

Apart from me, who are these "hordes"?

[flash2015]

@flash do you have any townreads?

Give me some time. Let me see if I can get more than a few uninterrupted minutes to look back at the game (I haven't been able to do this all weekend). It is starting to get to a point where the number of people is manageable for me.

[flash2015]

OK, after multiple interruptions I had a quick scan. I am not sure I can give townreads...but if I had to guess a scum team right now it would be Donny, Flum, Worcej and perhaps Moscow.

[ghug]

OK, after multiple interruptions I had a quick scan. I am not sure I can give townreads...but if I had to guess a scum team right now it would be Donny, Flum, Worcej and perhaps Moscow.

Why?