M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[kgray]

Kgray, why are you assuming defending Vecna was a townie thing to do? If flash is town then it's pretty meaningless no?

Mainly regarding your take on worcej.

Same for worcej, I think scum!worcej would rather keep around town!flash than town!Vecna.

[Durga]

I'm actually fine to get flash today, but ghug actively irritating me and nitpicking weird things and doing fake contributory shit like claiming gun is likely scum!ghug

Didn't scumghug try to be nice to you last game?
Don't I do more shit they pisses people off as town?
Didn't you scumread me before I dared to ask you a question this morning?

Why are you posting at night?
Why did you scumread me overnight?

Were you nice? I don't recall that. I remember you auto town reading me which was sus.
What? What?

There's no reason for me not to post at night. Like I said, if I draw the nk it's not gonna be a big deal. Take that as you will. There's no reason for everyone to be silent at night. I don't understand why you're focused on me with this and not flum, it's fucking weird. Stop repeating yourself it's irritating

[seth24c]

##VOTE seth

I think I have repeated my reasons for suspecting seth enough.

Wow dude. I seriously think you're town but you're becoming the best player for scum.

What makes you seriously think bozo is town? You've been scumreading him for a while now. What changed?

I was scumreading him before damo flipped town. The damo flip made me think he was more likely town and the fact that he has been pushing me so hard makes me think that he wouldn’t do that if he was scum.

[Durga]

Kgray, why are you assuming defending Vecna was a townie thing to do? If flash is town then it's pretty meaningless no?

Yeah, that's true. If flash is town it doesn't mean much. But even if Vecna's reads were 100% backwards I agree that scum would rather take the opportunity to daykill him than flash.

I agree with this

[kgray]

Wow dude. I seriously think you're town but you're becoming the best player for scum.

What makes you seriously think bozo is town? You've been scumreading him for a while now. What changed?

I was scumreading him before damo flipped town. The damo flip made me think he was more likely town and the fact that he has been pushing me so hard makes me think that he wouldn’t do that if he was scum.

Why does damo being town make bozo more likely town, and why do you think scum!bozo wouldn't push you so hard?

[seth24c]

In my opinion flash is not the best flip today. He may or may not be scum but I think we have several partners/groups that are very likely to be scum together and I would prefer to flip one of those options. Maniac in particular is extremely scummy and would give us loads of information. He never deserved to be let off the hook for being the alternate wagon to summit imo. Ghug and moscow are two other ones who I currently have above flash on my preference list.

Um what? Where did your ghug scumread come from?

It came from necessity since we are clearly on the wrong track as town. Summit was heavily bussed and I strongly believe maniac should be the flip. I scumread ghug because of his interactions with the summit wagon and believe he and flum or Moscow may be on a team.

[seth24c]

What makes you seriously think bozo is town? You've been scumreading him for a while now. What changed?

I was scumreading him before damo flipped town. The damo flip made me think he was more likely town and the fact that he has been pushing me so hard makes me think that he wouldn’t do that if he was scum.

Why does damo being town make bozo more likely town, and why do you think scum!bozo wouldn't push you so hard?

Because I so strongly believed damo was scum that I was framing my read of others on that and that partially incriminated bozo if I remember correctly. Don’t remember the exact case I had on bozo but I think there are now more likely scenarios where bozo is not scum. Scum bozo wouldn’t have any incentive to draw this much attention to himself as if my flip actually happened it would incriminate him.

[kgray]

In my opinion flash is not the best flip today. He may or may not be scum but I think we have several partners/groups that are very likely to be scum together and I would prefer to flip one of those options. Maniac in particular is extremely scummy and would give us loads of information. He never deserved to be let off the hook for being the alternate wagon to summit imo. Ghug and moscow are two other ones who I currently have above flash on my preference list.

Um what? Where did your ghug scumread come from?

It came from necessity since we are clearly on the wrong track as town. Summit was heavily bussed and I strongly believe maniac should be the flip. I scumread ghug because of his interactions with the summit wagon and believe he and flum or Moscow may be on a team.

Do you think Maniac is the traitor?

[seth24c]

Um what? Where did your ghug scumread come from?

It came from necessity since we are clearly on the wrong track as town. Summit was heavily bussed and I strongly believe maniac should be the flip. I scumread ghug because of his interactions with the summit wagon and believe he and flum or Moscow may be on a team.

Do you think Maniac is the traitor?

I think he could either be the traitor or one of the original roles. Because summit was bussed so hard I actually think he is on the original mafia team.

[kgray]

It came from necessity since we are clearly on the wrong track as town. Summit was heavily bussed and I strongly believe maniac should be the flip. I scumread ghug because of his interactions with the summit wagon and believe he and flum or Moscow may be on a team.

Do you think Maniac is the traitor?

I think he could either be the traitor or one of the original roles. Because summit was bussed so hard I actually think he is on the original mafia team.

So you think summit claimed PR when his teammate was his counter wagon?

[kgray]

##vote Donny

[seth24c]

Do you think Maniac is the traitor?

I think he could either be the traitor or one of the original roles. Because summit was bussed so hard I actually think he is on the original mafia team.

So you think summit claimed PR when his teammate was his counter wagon?

Yeah I think he probably either just freaked out and didn’t think about his teammate being the other wagon or wanted to draw the CC. This is why I think it is still possible he was the traitor but honestly summit probably was just looking to draw the cc before he went down and didn’t think it was likely that people would actually switch to maniac.

[Donny Dude]

I think he could either be the traitor or one of the original roles. Because summit was bussed so hard I actually think he is on the original mafia team.

So you think summit claimed PR when his teammate was his counter wagon?

Yeah I think he probably either just freaked out and didn’t think about his teammate being the other wagon or wanted to draw the CC. This is why I think it is still possible he was the traitor but honestly summit probably was just looking to draw the cc before he went down and didn’t think it was likely that people would actually switch to maniac.

Thanks kgray.
Maniac, Have you played with scum summit before?

[kgray]

I think he could either be the traitor or one of the original roles. Because summit was bussed so hard I actually think he is on the original mafia team.

So you think summit claimed PR when his teammate was his counter wagon?

Yeah I think he probably either just freaked out and didn’t think about his teammate being the other wagon or wanted to draw the CC. This is why I think it is still possible he was the traitor but honestly summit probably was just looking to draw the cc before he went down and didn’t think it was likely that people would actually switch to maniac.

I keep going back and forth on this. On the one hand, it really looked to me like summit as going to die even without a counter claim. But on the other, I think he was really focused on not hurting his team. So I think if I had to guess I'd say summit didn't know Maniac was his teammate.

[Donny Dude]

I think you generally try to push him somewhat so you get credit for being on him

I wouldn’t consider flash useless from what I can remember I feel like he’d be able to at least make some attempt at getting cred, seems unlikely he’s one of the worst scum players I’ve ever seen

Then what is your take on summit then?
Is he also in the same category as flash if the two were swapped for d1 wagons?

[Maniac]

So you think summit claimed PR when his teammate was his counter wagon?

Yeah I think he probably either just freaked out and didn’t think about his teammate being the other wagon or wanted to draw the CC. This is why I think it is still possible he was the traitor but honestly summit probably was just looking to draw the cc before he went down and didn’t think it was likely that people would actually switch to maniac.

Thanks kgray.
Maniac, Have you played with scum summit before?

No this is my first time

[Donny Dude]

I'm actually fine to get flash today, but ghug actively irritating me and nitpicking weird things and doing fake contributory shit like claiming gun is likely scum!ghug

Didn't scumghug try to be nice to you last game?
Don't I do more shit they pisses people off as town?
Didn't you scumread me before I dared to ask you a question this morning?

Why are you posting at night?
Why did you scumread me overnight?

Were you nice? I don't recall that. I remember you auto town reading me which was sus.
What? What?

There's no reason for me not to post at night. Like I said, if I draw the nk it's not gonna be a big deal. Take that as you will. There's no reason for everyone to be silent at night. I don't understand why you're focused on me with this and not flum, it's fucking weird. Stop repeating yourself it's irritating

Durga, why do you believe everyone should not be silent at night?

[Durga]

What? I said not everyone has to be, not that no one should be.

[Donny Dude]

What? I said not everyone has to be, not that no one should be.

K, and why is that then?

[bo_sox48]

VOTE COUNT 5.3

flash2015 (2) - Fluminator, ghug
ghug (2) - Durga, Maniac
seth24c (2) - Nanook, bozotheclown
Donny Dude (1) - kgray
Maniac (1) - seth24c
MoscowFleet (1) - Hellenic Riot

Donny Dude, flash2015, MoscowFleet, and worcej must vote.

NOBODY is set to walk the plank.

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