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Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:59 pm
by worcej
Perplexity wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:53 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:50 pm

Why do you expect food to obvtown, especially this early?
he can be a great leader when he has town alignment
How do you have a strong opinion of food (doesn't play super frequently) yet not understand me (who plays far more often then food)?

##vote Perp

Eden gets a pass - Perp is far too inconsistent for my liking.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:00 pm
by celaph
ghug wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:52 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:24 pm


So you’re just saying you know these people better and would rather kill someone you don’t know as well.
Your half right. There is obviously bias towards players I've seen play well as town consistently before. But it's more selective than strictly my experience with them. See someone like Chaqa who I've played with plenty before, but wasn't on the list.
Are you buddying me?
Yeah, without kgray I need someone to buddy.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:00 pm
by foodcoats
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:58 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:36 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 4:45 pm

Had you not read this post when you made your previous post on me?

Good player Vecna is a meta thing. As town he has generally done a good job solving the game, obvtowning himself, and drawing the NK. He's null in my books right now, but I think DKing a null Vecna on D1 is a bad move.
Of course I read this post. But if Vecna is actively playing badly, is it really the right response to decide that “Vecna is good, even though they’re actively being bad, so let’s put them off the table?” Isn’t this kind of reputation based protection exactly what can be abused by scum by doing a parrot impression all D1?

As town, my reaction is more, “Gee, this bit of Vecna’s is stupid. I wish they would contribute to the game.” Not, “Good players do parrot impressions sometimes.”

So, protecting a “good player” who is actively unhelpful to town, and could be actively hiding their scumminess, does not make good sense to me.
You make good points and obviously if Vecna keeps doing this, we'll kill him. But he's had a good track record of picking his behavior up later on (see M63 and 64). I called it a meta save for a reason, it's not grounded in his behavior this game.

You seem to think I'm scum. Do you think I'm scum protecting my scum buddy Vecna or trying to win town points by defending town Vecna?
I think if you are scum, you are trying to get points for townreading Vecna before he gets bolted/NKed.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:01 pm
by Chaqa
brainbomb wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 4:50 pm
I woke up today and my dog passed away unexpectedly in his sleep last night.
That's awful to hear, brain. As a fellow dog person, my condolences.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:01 pm
by foodcoats
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:59 pm
Perplexity wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:53 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:50 pm

Why do you expect food to obvtown, especially this early?
he can be a great leader when he has town alignment
How do you have a strong opinion of food (doesn't play super frequently) yet not understand me (who plays far more often then food)?

##vote Perp

Eden gets a pass - Perp is far too inconsistent for my liking.
I seem to recall Vaporwave had the same problem of seeming scummy while being town that you, worcej, also have.

But... Perplexity is not a bad vote.

##VOTE Perplexity

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:02 pm
by Chaqa
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:55 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:00 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 4:30 pm
Hot and spicy vote incoming.

##vote President Eden

To use something he once said about me: I expect more out of him than what is currently occurring. Being busy is fine, but still the 3 posts so far have been non-contributing.
To give him some reasonable excuse, Eden graduated law school yesterday and has a friend of ours in town as well as his family until tomorrow, so he has very very legitimate reasons to be MIA at the moment.
So are you saying I should give him a pass and move to someone else?
For now. I expect his activity picks up a lot tomorrow and Thursday as his friends and family exodus themselves.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:03 pm
by Perplexity
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:59 pm
Perplexity wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:53 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:50 pm

Why do you expect food to obvtown, especially this early?
he can be a great leader when he has town alignment
How do you have a strong opinion of food (doesn't play super frequently) yet not understand me (who plays far more often then food)?

##vote Perp

Eden gets a pass - Perp is far too inconsistent for my liking.
how can I understand you when you're unpredictable

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm
by celaph
Perp is a good wagon. I'll ##vote lfischl for a second wagon.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:09 pm
by lfischl
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm
Perp is a good wagon. I'll ##vote lfischl for a second wagon.
oh god no not this again

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:13 pm
by President Eden
worcej and Chaq are spooky

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:13 pm
by worcej
Perplexity wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:03 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:59 pm
Perplexity wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:53 pm


he can be a great leader when he has town alignment
How do you have a strong opinion of food (doesn't play super frequently) yet not understand me (who plays far more often then food)?

##vote Perp

Eden gets a pass - Perp is far too inconsistent for my liking.
how can I understand you when you're unpredictable
How am I unpredicatble?

I'm a pretty damn open book.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:14 pm
by worcej
President Eden wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:13 pm
worcej and Chaq are spooky
Expand on this one for me.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:14 pm
by e.m.c^42
Wow this has been relatively quiet, scumchat busy or something lol

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:14 pm
by celaph
lfischl wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:09 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm
Perp is a good wagon. I'll ##vote lfischl for a second wagon.
oh god no not this again
Why did you justify your vote on Perp by saying that it feels like he was playing like you were when you were town?

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:16 pm
by e.m.c^42
Missed y'all awhile, time to see what's happened.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:17 pm
by lfischl
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:14 pm
lfischl wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:09 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm
Perp is a good wagon. I'll ##vote lfischl for a second wagon.
oh god no not this again
Why did you justify your vote on Perp by saying that it feels like he was playing like you were when you were town?
I voted for perp because I think he's Either a newbie or an experienced player trying to act like one. I really don't know who else to vote besides him though.

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:17 pm
by damo666
ghug wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:34 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 4:29 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 2:55 pm
Can I ask how my one counter argument completely stopped your no-NK discussion?

You brought the subject up, but seem to not have any interest in it...
My heart was never really in it and you reminded why it's a daft idea.
What about worcej was more convincing to you than other people's objections?
The lack of VCA bit

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:20 pm
by e.m.c^42
ghug wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 2:35 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 1:09 am
I'm gonna try a new personality this game. You have been warned.
Big fan of you deciding to have a personality.
Bless, darlin'

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:22 pm
by ghug
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:56 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:33 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 4:26 pm
Actually, what it most likely was is the bot didn't recognize that 'Perp' was shorthand for you yet. After his second vote, I think the bot 'learned' it.
No, the bot doesn't learn. It has the functionality to hard code special nicknames, and otherwise allows any unambiguous prefix of at least 3 letters.
(my guess is darg might've coded it...)
Ah, "learning".

Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:22 pm
by ghug
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 6:00 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:52 pm
celaph wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm


Your half right. There is obviously bias towards players I've seen play well as town consistently before. But it's more selective than strictly my experience with them. See someone like Chaqa who I've played with plenty before, but wasn't on the list.
Are you buddying me?
Yeah, without kgray I need someone to buddy.
Lucky for you I am kgray.