Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:00 pm
No, kak.
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No, kak.
To be more clear (because you DID recently give us some comments on flum and macca) I am interested in why you choose maniac OVER the others, at this particular time.dargorygel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 pmThanks, celaph. This is a very agreeable post.celaph wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:53 pm##vote Maniac
I'm dislike the way that it feels that Maniac has slid back into the shadows the moment that there is no longer a wagon on him. His vote on me seems to be entirely based around an assumption that brain had mechanical info while he hasn't really engaged in the other arguments. His weird mix of good comments, I liked his call out of Chaqa's vote D2, anti-town posts reminds me of M64 and his VT claim has the same energy to mine.
Looking at the other two wagons I'm liking the way that kgray has built the flum argument and I agree with Darg that he's recent change on me is concerning. That said, I wasn't getting the sense that others were early D2 that he was scummy.
Macca's a been a real non-factor and I agree with ghug and food's criticisms of their catch-up. I think they are, and will be for the rest of this game, a good DK.
Could you comment on any of the substantive wagons on the board right now? Two hours from EoD, starting a new wagon seems... non-commital... maybe that's not the word.
I understand your read on Maniac. But could you give us a succinct explanation of why you are not choosing Macca, or Flum, or even Celaph? (ok... skip the last one...)
No. Flum confused Watcher and Tracker, I did not.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:55 pmSo worcej's scumlist included kgray, flum, darg, chaqa, and jamie. That's a hell of a team right there but I feel pretty strongly that darg is as much town as town can be.
Flum's day 2 voting was all over the place and on 6 people.
As of the last time I entered anything in Flum's cell, I had this: “Read brain’s ISO; Celaph scum all day long…” Votes Chaqa, questioned about it by Food as to whether it is a joke because Chaqa confused Watcher with Tracker.
#3859 Says they are softening on Celaph but think scum are kgray/rdr/chaqa and concerned with jamie/damo. Gets called out for their reads by Rivera. "\\
If anyone's suggesting, "Brian, looks like you're trying to make a case backward," I am not. I just want to get any of my thoughts out there that might spark with someone else's.
Do you mean early D3? I don't think Flum was scumread much D2. And assuming you did mean D3: you didn't think that Flum's push on you, based on brain allegedly crumbing a guilty on you, was scummy? Surely you know that brain couldn't have found anything conclusive against you. But you think it's towny for Flum to vote you presumably for that reason only?celaph wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:53 pm##vote Maniac
I'm dislike the way that it feels that Maniac has slid back into the shadows the moment that there is no longer a wagon on him. His vote on me seems to be entirely based around an assumption that brain had mechanical info while he hasn't really engaged in the other arguments. His weird mix of good comments, I liked his call out of Chaqa's vote D2, anti-town posts reminds me of M64 and his VT claim has the same energy to mine.
Looking at the other two wagons I'm liking the way that kgray has built the flum argument and I agree with Darg that he's recent change on me is concerning. That said, I wasn't getting the sense that others were early D2 that he was scummy.
Macca's a been a real non-factor and I agree with ghug and food's criticisms of their catch-up. I think they are, and will be for the rest of this game, a good DK.
I commented briefly on them in the post you just quoted. Are there things you want me to elaborate on in particular? At the moment my preference of the two is for Flum by a small margin given the way that he's responded to his wagon.dargorygel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 pmThanks, celaph. This is a very agreeable post.celaph wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:53 pm##vote Maniac
I'm dislike the way that it feels that Maniac has slid back into the shadows the moment that there is no longer a wagon on him. His vote on me seems to be entirely based around an assumption that brain had mechanical info while he hasn't really engaged in the other arguments. His weird mix of good comments, I liked his call out of Chaqa's vote D2, anti-town posts reminds me of M64 and his VT claim has the same energy to mine.
Looking at the other two wagons I'm liking the way that kgray has built the flum argument and I agree with Darg that he's recent change on me is concerning. That said, I wasn't getting the sense that others were early D2 that he was scummy.
Macca's a been a real non-factor and I agree with ghug and food's criticisms of their catch-up. I think they are, and will be for the rest of this game, a good DK.
Could you comment on any of the substantive wagons on the board right now? Two hours from EoD, starting a new wagon seems... non-commital... maybe that's not the word.
I understand your read on Maniac. But could you give us a succinct explanation of why you are not choosing Macca, or Flum, or even Celaph? (ok... skip the last one...)
Not just because of the Watcher. He's been deliberately obstinate and wrong all game.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:10 pmJust checking in on my phone, on my way home from the gym. I'll be on properly for about the last hour up to EoD.
Haven't seen the last dozen pages or so.
I see from Peterbot that Flum is now the lead wagon. Is that just because he doesn't understand what a Watcher is?
Has Macca done anything to improve their performance or show that they are town?
Any quick questions for me?
Anyone wanna kill Maniac?
Where are you getting worcej's scum team from? In his final words he said I was town/3p, had brain and you as scummy, damo as scum/3p, and ghug and Maniac as null.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:55 pmSo worcej's scumlist included kgray, flum, darg, chaqa, and jamie. That's a hell of a team right there but I feel pretty strongly that darg is as much town as town can be.
That's not why I'm calling you scummy, and I don't think it's very tinfoily to scumread celaph and also think it possible that brain had some info.
Jimmit, are you scum?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:17 pmMy preferences (on who to vote out) would be Maniac > Macca > Bonatogether > Flum then I guess.
This is my issue here. Brain was a Watcher.
Thanks for the clarification.dargorygel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:01 pmTo be more clear (because you DID recently give us some comments on flum and macca) I am interested in why you choose maniac OVER the others, at this particular time.dargorygel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 pmThanks, celaph. This is a very agreeable post.celaph wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:53 pm##vote Maniac
I'm dislike the way that it feels that Maniac has slid back into the shadows the moment that there is no longer a wagon on him. His vote on me seems to be entirely based around an assumption that brain had mechanical info while he hasn't really engaged in the other arguments. His weird mix of good comments, I liked his call out of Chaqa's vote D2, anti-town posts reminds me of M64 and his VT claim has the same energy to mine.
Looking at the other two wagons I'm liking the way that kgray has built the flum argument and I agree with Darg that he's recent change on me is concerning. That said, I wasn't getting the sense that others were early D2 that he was scummy.
Macca's a been a real non-factor and I agree with ghug and food's criticisms of their catch-up. I think they are, and will be for the rest of this game, a good DK.
Could you comment on any of the substantive wagons on the board right now? Two hours from EoD, starting a new wagon seems... non-commital... maybe that's not the word.
I understand your read on Maniac. But could you give us a succinct explanation of why you are not choosing Macca, or Flum, or even Celaph? (ok... skip the last one...)
Hi someone who stole Jamiet's phone, could you give it back to him? Thanks.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:10 pmJust checking in on my phone, on my way home from the gym. I'll be on properly for about the last hour up to EoD.
Haven't seen the last dozen pages or so.
I see from Peterbot that Flum is now the lead wagon. Is that just because he doesn't understand what a Watcher is?
Has Macca done anything to improve their performance or show that they are town?
Any quick questions for me?
Anyone wanna kill Maniac?
I'm not convinced the "darg's house" comment means what you think it means.kgray wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:25 pmConsidering the flipped Watcher explicitly stated that nobody visited darg - a cop claimant - on N1, if celaph flips scum I'm going to be incredibly suspicious of ghug, Flum, Maniac and whoever else is giving that much weight to brain's scumread of celaph. Watching darg was clearly the most logical choice N1 and people insisting that brain caught celaph doing something else scummy, and ignoring brain's claim that he watched darg and saw nothing, are really sketchy.