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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:05 pm
by Bonatogether
TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:29 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:25 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:22 pm
This post by Durga is a bit interesting too re:Fox
Gosh that is interesting, because it appears Durga was unwilling to move off Celaph onto Fox/Vecna, at that point in time - and we know she was bussing Celaph at that moment.
Here, Durga had an opportunity to move her vote off her team-mate, at the urging of Kgray who she usually trusts, (certainly when they're both town), and she is unwilling to do so.
Do you think that implies that Foxna is either the godfather or the RB?
what do you think it means? give an opinion already
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:07 pm
by Vecna
Y'all should give me some more time instead of endvoting
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:08 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:07 pm
Y'all should give me some more time instead of endvoting
Are you about to do, say, think or articulate something meaningful?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:12 pm
by Vecna
Just find yourself some actual scum to kill and let me live for now.
I told you abundantly clear when I signed up I didnt have much actual time to play. I can try and fabricate some shit, but I dont think it benefits anyone. Y'all made it very clear when I tried to speed catch-up you didnt value my input, so I stopped and just let you do your thing without interfering. seems to be working so far.
Im not gonna attack anyone over there reasoning, since the arguments are mostly within reason, but the conclusion is wrong.
Look elsewhere for today
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:17 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:12 pm
Just find yourself some actual scum to kill and let me live for now.
I told you abundantly clear when I signed up I didnt have much actual time to play. I can try and fabricate some shit, but I dont think it benefits anyone. Y'all made it very clear when I tried to speed catch-up you didnt value my input, so I stopped and just let you do your thing without interfering. seems to be working so far.
Im not gonna attack anyone over there reasoning, since the arguments are mostly within reason, but the conclusion is wrong.
Look elsewhere for today
What will be different tomorrow?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:24 pm
by ghug
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:12 pm
Just find yourself some actual scum to kill and let me live for now.
I told you abundantly clear when I signed up I didnt have much actual time to play. I can try and fabricate some shit, but I dont think it benefits anyone. Y'all made it very clear when I tried to speed catch-up you didnt value my input, so I stopped and just let you do your thing without interfering. seems to be working so far.
Im not gonna attack anyone over there reasoning, since the arguments are mostly within reason, but the conclusion is wrong.
Look elsewhere for today
Do you ever see yourself participating enough that we won't have to kill you eventually?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:44 pm
by Jamiet99uk
"I don't have time to play but please don't kill me"
and
"I'm sorry I've not had time to get caught up, but give me a pass just for today so that I can do that"
are two very different statements.
Vecna is attempting to rely on the former.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:46 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:05 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:29 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:25 pm
Gosh that is interesting, because it appears Durga was unwilling to move off Celaph onto Fox/Vecna, at that point in time - and we know she was bussing Celaph at that moment.
Here, Durga had an opportunity to move her vote off her team-mate, at the urging of Kgray who she usually trusts, (certainly when they're both town), and she is unwilling to do so.
Do you think that implies that Foxna is either the godfather or the RB?
what do you think it means? give an opinion already
I think it's highly likely he is a scum PR, yes.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:46 pm
by ghug
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:24 pm
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:12 pm
Just find yourself some actual scum to kill and let me live for now.
I told you abundantly clear when I signed up I didnt have much actual time to play. I can try and fabricate some shit, but I dont think it benefits anyone. Y'all made it very clear when I tried to speed catch-up you didnt value my input, so I stopped and just let you do your thing without interfering. seems to be working so far.
Im not gonna attack anyone over there reasoning, since the arguments are mostly within reason, but the conclusion is wrong.
Look elsewhere for today
Do you ever see yourself participating enough that we won't have to kill you eventually?
And this is a real question, I'm not being sassy.
I kinda think you're town, and I'd much prefer we have a real EoD again instead of another runaway against an absentee, but if you're never going to be around, we should probably just kill you.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:57 pm
by Vecna
Am I going to catchup on the full game? No, I can guarantee that wont happen.
Will I continue to make efforts to the best my schedule allows? Yes. It doesnt help that usually when I tag in during my daytime that noone seems to be around.
And yes, im asking for you not to kill me today. Given how we have plenty of people that lurk from time to time, I dont think thats too much to ask.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:16 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:57 pm
Am I going to catchup on the full game? No, I can guarantee that wont happen.
Will I continue to make efforts to the best my schedule allows? Yes. It doesnt help that usually when I tag in during my daytime that noone seems to be around.
And yes, im asking for you not to kill me today. Given how we have plenty of people that lurk from time to time, I dont think thats too much to ask.
Vecna, if you are serious about this, here are some questions you could respond to without reading the whole game:
1. You know Durga reasonably well and have been in plenty of games with her. Do you think that she would bus a team-mate on multiple occasions, if that team-mate was a Mafia Goon, in order to help protect a Mafia PR who was also being voted by people?
2. Do you think Hellenic Riot and Goldfinger are the type of players likely to engage in elaborate scum theatre?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:21 pm
by Vecna
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:16 pm
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:57 pm
Am I going to catchup on the full game? No, I can guarantee that wont happen.
Will I continue to make efforts to the best my schedule allows? Yes. It doesnt help that usually when I tag in during my daytime that noone seems to be around.
And yes, im asking for you not to kill me today. Given how we have plenty of people that lurk from time to time, I dont think thats too much to ask.
Vecna, if you are serious about this, here are some questions you could respond to without reading the whole game:
1. You know Durga reasonably well and have been in plenty of games with her. Do you think that she would bus a team-mate on multiple occasions, if that team-mate was a Mafia Goon, in order to help protect a Mafia PR who was also being voted by people?
2. Do you think Hellenic Riot and Goldfinger are the type of players likely to engage in elaborate scum theatre?
1: yes, if she felt that was the best way to victory
2: HR: No. Gold, no idea. (I havent gotten a lot of scum feelings about either)
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:22 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Your answer to (1) is interesting, because in this scenario the potential scum PR, is you.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:27 pm
by ghug
Durga doesn't give a shit about PRs.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 pm
by Vecna
We can discuss any number of hypotheticals, but im pretty sure I wouldve been a much better candidate to bus if I was scum, regardless of role.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:37 pm
by ghug
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 pm
We can discuss any number of hypotheticals, but im pretty sure I wouldve been a much better candidate to bus if I was scum, regardless of role.
Does this change if it happened when Foxcastle was still in the game?
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:37 pm
by damo666
@Vecna if you don't have time to read the game ISO me. I think you will then remove your vote.
If you want a shortlist of people to ISO to save time I would suggest the following:
Bona
Gold
Maniac
HR
and maybe rdr
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:38 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 pm
We can discuss any number of hypotheticals, but im pretty sure I wouldve been a much better candidate to bus if I was scum, regardless of role.
But she
did bus Celaph, because we know they were both scum, and Durga voted for her during the mid-part of the day, both D1 and D2, and she was very reluctant to move from Celaph, to you.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:41 pm
by Vecna
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:37 pm
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 pm
We can discuss any number of hypotheticals, but im pretty sure I wouldve been a much better candidate to bus if I was scum, regardless of role.
Does this change if it happened when Foxcastle was still in the game?
Cba to go look at the bot, but you can bet your ass i wouldve told any scum teammate to happily bus away with my schedule, regardless of role. Esp if my slot was tunneled by jamiet.
Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:43 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:41 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:37 pm
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 pm
We can discuss any number of hypotheticals, but im pretty sure I wouldve been a much better candidate to bus if I was scum, regardless of role.
Does this change if it happened when Foxcastle was still in the game?
Cba to go look at the bot, but you can bet your ass i wouldve told any scum teammate to happily bus away with my schedule, regardless of role. Esp if my slot was tunneled by jamiet.
I was not tunnelling you / Foxcastle at any particular point on the first two days. I expressed a theory that Fox was scum, shortly before he subbed out, but at the same time I was busy pushing Fluminator.