M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Hellenic Riot]

Can you expand upon this thought? Who has died to cover flash? Why would scum want to protect flash over someone useful?

I'll be voting flash over Seth if it comes to it.

It's hypocritical because I've been daykilling them too.
But in Mafia 54 I remember every person I miskilled died telling me to kill xorx and then it was too late to get the people vote him when I clued in.

I'm a little spooked that the last two people I miskilled died saying flash was scum lol. I'd suspect scum to be more keen to piggyback off flash suspicion if he was town. Usually flash is an easy target.

Flash is also just acting so weird this game.

Yeah I thought of this too, but in M54 those people were also getting NK'd, right? Here, scum have presumably been focused on the outed PRs and the people scumreading flash were daykilled, so it's not quite the same.

But that town!flash would be an easy miskill target is an interesting point...

Is it that interesting a point? Going back to M57 again, half the reason we kept emc around was to ensure we had an easy miskill at lylo. Why use them up early? I don't really see why the scum would pile on flash this early for that reason.

[Maniac]

##vote Flash a-ha, he's not the saviour of the Toon universe

Tooniverse dude come on

Yep that's the portmanteau I missed

[Durga]

##Vote Vecna. I've managed to skim everything and so many of Vecna's posts are just completely different from his normal loose, semi-abrasive style. I also feel pretty good about all the voters on it, which I can't say about seth.

I've said this before, but I don't like killing flash all that much. For one the only scum-indicative thing he's done is lurk, which is literally in line with his meta. It's not helpful, but it's not a smoking gun by any means. His flip also gives us almost zero info.

This silly post is probably further proof that he's town though....

As scum he'd probably be quite aware ive been also defending him quite a bit, and am one of the very few people doing so.

how is this your take, if you're both town or flash is scum, obviously scum would want YOU dead over lurker/scum flash

[Nanook]

##vote vecna


I am not caught up, I do not have time to catch up, I don’t know what the case on either player is, I’m voting here due to wagon composition plus not particularly wanting to kill “I parked a D1 vote on mafia and made zero effort to change it” flash

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Vecna

I was waiting to see if seth would join a wagon.

[ghug]

I mean all flash did was pop in, get angry about being voted by 4(?) people, and not engage with anything else. I'm pretty happy with everyone on this wagon too

Who do you think are flash's teammates?

im sus of maniac (but don't wanna vote him yet bc i just don't know about EoD1), nook, and there's a deep scum likely somewhere that I jsut can't figure out, if it's you i'm gonna flip out, i honestly think we're all ignoring kgray too much too but frankly idk.

Don't worry I'm town :)

Everyone says she's great at scum but I can't see it at all here. What does she do that's so amazing.

[Vecna]

At the end of the day Vecna openly defended Summit d1 and pushed multiple counter-wagons against him. He then vacilitated between two more townies D2 in Prado & Bunny, and was the decisive vote that tied Prado with Bunny and killed any chance of us staying on Bunny after the claim. He then, despite the PR claim having apparently convinced him not to get Bunny, still automatically got Bunny the next day. He followed this up by throwing shade on people for protecting Flash after he was the decisive person in getting Damo eliminated. He's been consistently utterly wrong all game - So he's either a total liability, or he's scum. The end.

I voted Damo. You voted Damo yourself as well. I didnt push shit, I tried to stop the summit wagon from running away to make sure we'd still get a proper day.

I was staying on bunny for a lot longer than youre trying to paint here, untill both Kgray and chaqa were drowing out any discussion I was trying to have to stay on there.

Your third point is bullshit.

I was not the decisive person on Damo. Both you and Maniac switched to him after I did.

4 lies and half truths. next

[MoscowFleet]

##Vote Vecna. I've managed to skim everything and so many of Vecna's posts are just completely different from his normal loose, semi-abrasive style. I also feel pretty good about all the voters on it, which I can't say about seth.

I've said this before, but I don't like killing flash all that much. For one the only scum-indicative thing he's done is lurk, which is literally in line with his meta. It's not helpful, but it's not a smoking gun by any means. His flip also gives us almost zero info.

Good point on the zero info, how do you feel about the voters on Flash?

I townread you pretty strongly the first two days based off your posting style as well as my initial thoughts on your posts. But I haven't really looked at your votes. I townread flum, scumread vecna, am officially null on Durga but if vecna flips scum I think she's almost certainly scum as well, and I townread Tom.

[kgray]

It's hypocritical because I've been daykilling them too.
But in Mafia 54 I remember every person I miskilled died telling me to kill xorx and then it was too late to get the people vote him when I clued in.

I'm a little spooked that the last two people I miskilled died saying flash was scum lol. I'd suspect scum to be more keen to piggyback off flash suspicion if he was town. Usually flash is an easy target.

Flash is also just acting so weird this game.

Yeah I thought of this too, but in M54 those people were also getting NK'd, right? Here, scum have presumably been focused on the outed PRs and the people scumreading flash were daykilled, so it's not quite the same.

But that town!flash would be an easy miskill target is an interesting point...

Is it that interesting a point? Going back to M57 again, half the reason we kept emc around was to ensure we had an easy miskill at lylo. Why use them up early? I don't really see why the scum would pile on flash this early for that reason.

Okay that makes sense too. I don't see scum going out of their way to defend him, though.

[worcej]

##vote vecna


I am not caught up, I do not have time to catch up, I don’t know what the case on either player is, I’m voting here due to wagon composition plus not particularly wanting to kill “I parked a D1 vote on mafia and made zero effort to change it” flash

You're so obviously scum it hurts.

##vote Flash

[Vecna]

well you scumread* damo as well on day 1, before you later attacked me over that vote before damo had ever flipped

[kgray]

Who do you think are flash's teammates?

im sus of maniac (but don't wanna vote him yet bc i just don't know about EoD1), nook, and there's a deep scum likely somewhere that I jsut can't figure out, if it's you i'm gonna flip out, i honestly think we're all ignoring kgray too much too but frankly idk.

Don't worry I'm town :)

Everyone says she's great at scum but I can't see it at all here. What does she do that's so amazing.

Well you wouldn't see it, I'm not scum here.

[seth24c]

Wow lol

[Hellenic Riot]

Yeah I thought of this too, but in M54 those people were also getting NK'd, right? Here, scum have presumably been focused on the outed PRs and the people scumreading flash were daykilled, so it's not quite the same.

But that town!flash would be an easy miskill target is an interesting point...

Is it that interesting a point? Going back to M57 again, half the reason we kept emc around was to ensure we had an easy miskill at lylo. Why use them up early? I don't really see why the scum would pile on flash this early for that reason.

Okay that makes sense too. I don't see scum going out of their way to defend him, though.

To be fair, I'm pretty much the only person that's put much effort into actually defending flash as opposed to just preferring other wagons

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote vecna


I am not caught up, I do not have time to catch up, I don’t know what the case on either player is, I’m voting here due to wagon composition plus not particularly wanting to kill “I parked a D1 vote on mafia and made zero effort to change it” flash

You're so obviously scum it hurts.

##vote Flash

So why did you vote Vecna right up until he took the lead, worcej?

[worcej]

Vecna gets my thumbs up atm - I want to see what the opposite choice of Nanook's results as.

[Fluminator]

It does feel a little like HR decided he wanted Vecna daykilled and created a case in hindsight

[ghug]

im sus of maniac (but don't wanna vote him yet bc i just don't know about EoD1), nook, and there's a deep scum likely somewhere that I jsut can't figure out, if it's you i'm gonna flip out, i honestly think we're all ignoring kgray too much too but frankly idk.

Don't worry I'm town :)

Everyone says she's great at scum but I can't see it at all here. What does she do that's so amazing.

Well you wouldn't see it, I'm not scum here.

Not that I can't see you being great as scum, but I can't see you being scum even though you're supposedly good at it.

[worcej]

##vote vecna


I am not caught up, I do not have time to catch up, I don’t know what the case on either player is, I’m voting here due to wagon composition plus not particularly wanting to kill “I parked a D1 vote on mafia and made zero effort to change it” flash

You're so obviously scum it hurts.

##vote Flash

So why did you vote Vecna right up until he took the lead, worcej?

See my previous post.

[Donny Dude]

##Vote Vecna. I've managed to skim everything and so many of Vecna's posts are just completely different from his normal loose, semi-abrasive style. I also feel pretty good about all the voters on it, which I can't say about seth.

I've said this before, but I don't like killing flash all that much. For one the only scum-indicative thing he's done is lurk, which is literally in line with his meta. It's not helpful, but it's not a smoking gun by any means. His flip also gives us almost zero info.

Good point on the zero info, how do you feel about the voters on Flash?

I townread you pretty strongly the first two days based off your posting style as well as my initial thoughts on your posts. But I haven't really looked at your votes. I townread flum, scumread vecna, am officially null on Durga but if vecna flips scum I think she's almost certainly scum as well, and I townread Tom.

k, thanks.