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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:50 pm
by damo666
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:33 pm
Like I'm not just saying "hey guys we should flip TFB cause it would be funny lol"

Now, we *should* flip Jamie because it would be funny
It would but we ain't.

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:53 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:33 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:25 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:06 pm


I knew that post would get some flak lol, but I just don't think it's worth speculating on something I know we aren't gonna do anyway. It would be like speculating on what would happen if we flipped rivera today ;)
If you're gonna propose it, you should have a reason why.
I've already said the reason why - it gives us info about the Day 2 wagons and specifically if celaph was being bussed to protect TFB.

If that's true, by limiting our options to players like HR, Goldie, Maniac, Vecna, etc. we may be allowing 2-3 scum to go completely under the radar. I don't have a list of players on the celaph wagon I think are bussers necessarily, and that's the speculation I don't really feel like doing, as it's a black hole of wasted time and effort if we aren't gonna flip TFB.

I didn't think I had to explicitly spell all this out for you guys
Great and if you flip me and I am scum what does it tell you about the wagons? If I am town what does it tell you? If you're going to make these arguments you need to be able to answer those questions now otherwise you can't justify the flip.

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm
by Chaqa
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:53 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:33 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:25 pm


If you're gonna propose it, you should have a reason why.
I've already said the reason why - it gives us info about the Day 2 wagons and specifically if celaph was being bussed to protect TFB.

If that's true, by limiting our options to players like HR, Goldie, Maniac, Vecna, etc. we may be allowing 2-3 scum to go completely under the radar. I don't have a list of players on the celaph wagon I think are bussers necessarily, and that's the speculation I don't really feel like doing, as it's a black hole of wasted time and effort if we aren't gonna flip TFB.

I didn't think I had to explicitly spell all this out for you guys
Great and if you flip me and I am scum what does it tell you about the wagons? If I am town what does it tell you? If you're going to make these arguments you need to be able to answer those questions now otherwise you can't justify the flip.
Why are you being so dense?

If you flip scum it tells me that scum were bussing celaph to protect you, meaning scum is probably on your wagon.

If you're town it confirms scum is probably in the pool of players we're looking at.

I think you're town, so I'm fine just assumign the latter if it comes down to it, but I know I've bussed teammates before to gain towncred so I'm wary of it having happened here.

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm
by damo666
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:33 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:25 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:06 pm


I knew that post would get some flak lol, but I just don't think it's worth speculating on something I know we aren't gonna do anyway. It would be like speculating on what would happen if we flipped rivera today ;)
If you're gonna propose it, you should have a reason why.
I've already said the reason why - it gives us info about the Day 2 wagons and specifically if celaph was being bussed to protect TFB.

If that's true, by limiting our options to players like HR, Goldie, Maniac, Vecna, etc. we may be allowing 2-3 scum to go completely under the radar. I don't have a list of players on the celaph wagon I think are bussers necessarily, and that's the speculation I don't really feel like doing, as it's a black hole of wasted time and effort if we aren't gonna flip TFB.

I didn't think I had to explicitly spell all this out for you guys
It is apparent that nobody is gonna vote TFB other than Bona who is gonna waste his vote like every other day [who does that remind you of btw]. However we could get info by proxy by voting a TFB voter (and potential busser). The most obvious 2 would be Bona and HR.

Is anybody interested in joining me on Bona?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm
by Hellenic Riot
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:42 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:24 pm


Seems too simple
Maybe so but both being town being off both scum wagons seems improbable to me so I would say at least 1 is scum and if it is only one my money would be on Bona.
Sure but why wouldn't Bona be on the scum wagon if he were scum? Like on the me vs celaph day he would obviously not be on celaph because he wanted to get the miskill on me (that he also tried to get on D1) if he were scum!bona, but Durga? Why would he come back and end on me just like he did D1, D2, and D3? Like bona's tunneling is anti-town, but I'm far less confident that he's scum than someone like HR or Vecna or rdr.
Do you actually have some cases on me, Vecna, or rdr?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:58 pm
by Vecna
I know why im still alive, but why are you still alive HR?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:59 pm
by Hellenic Riot
Vecna wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:58 pm
I know why im still alive, but why are you still alive HR?
Why would I not be?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:00 pm
by Vecna
didnt you have a big part in dunking durga and celaph or w/e?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
by Hellenic Riot
Vecna wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:00 pm
didnt you have a big part in dunking durga and celaph or w/e?
Finally, the credit I've been after. Please continue not reading the game and automatically worshipping my godly prowess.



Have you actually read anything since you joined?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
by Chaqa
He had a big part in trying to save celaph too

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
by Chaqa
Oh, and ##Vote goldfinger

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
by kgray
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:33 pm
Like I'm not just saying "hey guys we should flip TFB cause it would be funny lol"

Now, we *should* flip Jamie because it would be funny
The only other person in this game who wanted to vote someone because it was funny flipped scum 🤔

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:07 pm
by Chaqa
kgray wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:33 pm
Like I'm not just saying "hey guys we should flip TFB cause it would be funny lol"

Now, we *should* flip Jamie because it would be funny
The only other person in this game who wanted to vote someone because it was funny flipped scum 🤔
By coin flip probability, this confirms I am town.

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:08 pm
by Hellenic Riot
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:32 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:33 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:59 am

1
Anyone that is reading the game and saw how obvtown Lamp was.

RIP Lamp and hope you play again.

I think one of HR/Kgray is scum just don't know which one. Vecna/Fox isn't a bad wagon too.

##vote Vecna
Also you should not be this lazy. You think one of me or HR is scum... pick one then. It should be obvious and frankly the fact that you're making that me/him statement is ridiculous.
I am tired, had a pretty bad day and I am feeling guilty about you, so I don't want to pick this fight. Call me lazy.

And why my statement is ridiculous? I am stating I don't think both of you are scum having a similar vote pattern around Celaph, but I also find hard to believe you are both misguided town that jumped out of Celaph wagon by coincidence. But I can't be sure and there is at least another two scum, so why it's ridiculous I am voting another scumread?
So you think that Foxna is scum. You think that one of kgray/Me is scum. Who else do you scumread? Indeed, aside from dead people - Who do you townread?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:08 pm
by kgray
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm
If you flip scum it tells me that scum were bussing celaph to protect you, meaning scum is probably on your wagon.

If you're town it confirms scum is probably in the pool of players we're looking at.

I think you're town, so I'm fine just assumign the latter if it comes down to it, but I know I've bussed teammates before to gain towncred so I'm wary of it having happened here.
What's this first thing? Scum were bussing celaph to protect boatman but ended up voting for boatman in the end?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:11 pm
by kgray
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
He had a big part in trying to save celaph too
Not really though. He just opportunistically jumped off celaph. Bona, lamp and I had a big part in trying to save celaph.

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:13 pm
by Chaqa
kgray wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:08 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm
If you flip scum it tells me that scum were bussing celaph to protect you, meaning scum is probably on your wagon.

If you're town it confirms scum is probably in the pool of players we're looking at.

I think you're town, so I'm fine just assumign the latter if it comes down to it, but I know I've bussed teammates before to gain towncred so I'm wary of it having happened here.
What's this first thing? Scum were bussing celaph to protect boatman but ended up voting for boatman in the end?
This operates on the assumption Durga was either unwilling or unable to vote celaph, and that the other 3 scum (or maybe 2 of them) bussed celaph to some extent (could just be Vecna, TFB, and say rivera or ghug or somthing)

I don't think it's super likely. But we're very far ahead and we could use one of our five flips to ensure we aren't fucking up.

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:13 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vecna wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:31 am
ill see if i can do some meaningfull shit this day, and whether its needed
When are you going to start?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:14 pm
by kgray
We have 5 left?

Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:14 pm
by Vecna
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:00 pm
didnt you have a big part in dunking durga and celaph or w/e?
Finally, the credit I've been after. Please continue not reading the game and automatically worshipping my godly prowess.

Have you actually read anything since you joined?
You sound annoyed that youre losing to a town with players like me on it