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if both hyde and mafia kill someone(probably townclears)FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:09 pmAssuming cmdr is mafia
ND-->Hyde+Jekyll
Demon-->Traveller
bozo,purple-->male VT
yavu-->female VT
vecna,me,kalel and tema, with two female VT's in between us...and two mafia
wait what? Why are you voting Yavu? I know you are saying it's 50/50 me and Yavu, but I don't understand why.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:40 pmANYWAYS
##vote yavu anyone want to lynch him? it'd clear cmdr by default, and then we can lynch bozo
I do not follow your logic.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:37 pmlikely we would have though, because then that would of cleared cmdr, purple is already cleared, bozo is clearly next mafia, and then we kill bozo, cancel out another NK.(although hyde still kills, but ND as shown blocks it)
then we find jack, and then we kill ND, and we win with massive town victory
but nope, now we are going to be facing a LYLO
no no no I didnt say its 50/50 you versus yavuCmdrLikely wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:45 pmwait what? Why are you voting Yavu? I know you are saying it's 50/50 me and Yavu, but I don't understand why.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:40 pmANYWAYS
##vote yavu anyone want to lynch him? it'd clear cmdr by default, and then we can lynch bozo
Anyways, not like it will matter because there isn't enough activity... nobody is going to even be online, let alone read these posts, let alone change their votes :'(
read everything i posted then?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:46 pmI do not follow your logic.FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:37 pmlikely we would have though, because then that would of cleared cmdr, purple is already cleared, bozo is clearly next mafia, and then we kill bozo, cancel out another NK.(although hyde still kills, but ND as shown blocks it)
then we find jack, and then we kill ND, and we win with massive town victory
but nope, now we are going to be facing a LYLO
I don't understand the difference between lynching in the male VT group and you and Vecna because most of us are voting for you anyways so why would it matter?CmdrLikely wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:11 pmFlaviusAetius, evidently you know you are currently voting on Bozo. I'm down with your thought process, but at the moment I think me vs Vecna is the scenario whose resolution is going to give us the best fighting chance. I don't actually know what Bozo is, but I feel more confident that he's bad versus my confidence in Purple being good. For the rest of you, it's a 1/3 chance. Vecna vs Cmdr is a 1/2 chance.
I want to avoid the scenario that we kill a town today in the 1/3 pool (purple, bozo, cmdr) and then we still have to scum hunt tomorrow. If for example we lynch Vecna or I, then it's more clear who are the liars the last couple days. If I'm confirmed town, we still don't know for sure who is the mafia between bozo and purple, but at least that's a 50-50 and most players seemed to have a medium to strong opinion on that already.
Oh I just thought of something:
Which is more likely?
Cmdr is Maf, therefore Vecna, Purple and Bozo are all town.
- or -
Cmdr is town, therefore Vecna is mafia and either Bozo or Purple are also mafia.
Actually I'm not sure if that helps or not. At this point, the odds shouldn't be at the forefront of our decision making. We should have better information, to avoid taking unnecessary chances.
Why exactly is cmdr not scum if yavu is?FlaviusAetius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:20 pmYou are the one who first made the argument we should lynch in the pool of threeCmdrLikely wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:11 pmFlaviusAetius, evidently you know you are currently voting on Bozo. I'm down with your thought process, but at the moment I think me vs Vecna is the scenario whose resolution is going to give us the best fighting chance. I don't actually know what Bozo is, but I feel more confident that he's bad versus my confidence in Purple being good. For the rest of you, it's a 1/3 chance. Vecna vs Cmdr is a 1/2 chance.
I want to avoid the scenario that we kill a town today in the 1/3 pool (purple, bozo, cmdr) and then we still have to scum hunt tomorrow. If for example we lynch Vecna or I, then it's more clear who are the liars the last couple days. If I'm confirmed town, we still don't know for sure who is the mafia between bozo and purple, but at least that's a 50-50 and most players seemed to have a medium to strong opinion on that already.
Oh I just thought of something:
Which is more likely?
Cmdr is Maf, therefore Vecna, Purple and Bozo are all town.
- or -
Cmdr is town, therefore Vecna is mafia and either Bozo or Purple are also mafia.
Actually I'm not sure if that helps or not. At this point, the odds shouldn't be at the forefront of our decision making. We should have better information, to avoid taking unnecessary chances.
I think my case was already made cleaar but to have it in one spot;
I think yavu is scum(for lots of different reasons)
I think if yavu is scum, you cant be scum
I want to lynch in this pool of three,
I dont think purple is scum
that leaves bozo