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ghug wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:37 am

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:11 am

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:08 am

No.

There is only one positive use of troublemaker I can see. If you are lucky and choose one werewolf then he can claim he was a werewolf and we kill the other.

Precisely.

What if a werewolf was chosen and got switched with the third party

ghug wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:37 am

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:11 am

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:08 am

No.

There is only one positive use of troublemaker I can see. If you are lucky and choose one werewolf then he can claim he was a werewolf and we kill the other.

Precisely.

The troublemaker *has* to switch people though, so whether or not it's a positive doesn't really matter.

kgray wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:40 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:37 am

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:11 am

There is only one positive use of troublemaker I can see. If you are lucky and choose one werewolf then he can claim he was a werewolf and we kill the other.

Precisely.

The troublemaker *has* to switch people though, so whether or not it's a positive doesn't really matter.

It's also a pretty sizable piece of information.

Start claiming shit, y'all.

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:37 am

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:37 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:02 pm

I'm the troublemaker. I swapped kgray and Jamie.

Oh god not this again.

Last time I played ONUW no one listened to me and I was right the entire time

Because no one can be right all the time and lfischl claims to have been right last time, we should do the opposite of what they say.

I think the only thing we can do is start claiming our starting roles. That will likely create counter claims which narrows down the pool of people who could be lying.

So I started as the Drunk. Anyone want to CC me go ahead.

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:14 pm

Oh God! My wife just texted me? "How many mg of THC should be good? Is it 50?" After some back and forth as to who was taking it and when, she texts back, "It's for me. I just did."

Great.

50 is a nice edible

Despite playing like dozens of games of One Night, I have no idea what is optimal here.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am

Despite playing like dozens of games of One Night, I have no idea what is optimal here.

It's the same game but with more than 2 minutes to discuss. Please claim.

Massclaims can only help town here, since either we can catch wws by someone getting switched and then being able to out the others, or it doesn't hurt, since there's no D2 to worry about.

Ideally doppelganger claims first, but that's been tanked already. Role switching powers should claim, and then seer, and then hunter.

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:17 am

Massclaims can only help town here, since either we can catch wws by someone getting switched and then being able to out the others, or it doesn't hurt, since there's no D2 to worry about.

Ideally doppelganger claims first, but that's been tanked already. Role switching powers should claim, and then seer, and then hunter.

Bona's right. Claim your shit.

lfischl wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:37 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:02 pm

I'm the troublemaker. I swapped kgray and Jamie.

Oh god not this again.

Again?

This is literally the first time we have ever played this game on webDip.

Maniac wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:09 am

So I started as the Drunk. Anyone want to CC me go ahead.

Which card did you pick?

@Teccles: Please join the conversation.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am

Despite playing like dozens of games of One Night, I have no idea what is optimal here.

How would you normally play?

Have you read your role PM?

Jamie, if you were a werewolf before, you can tell us now, since I switched your card.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:37 am

@Teccles: Please join the conversation.

Sorry! Was asleep. Just thinking things through now.

I agree that the troublemaker targets should claim if they were werewolves. I think if they were tanners or minions they don't claim that; no reason to tell the person you swapped with to screw with the game.

I'm the doppelganger. I targeted Maniac, who I can confirm is a drunk. Swapped with the centre card. I'm not quite clear one when this action happened - I think it's probably either before or after Maniac's swap?

I think the next claim should be the robber. If anyone claims the robber but doesn't claim it soon, we should be very suspicious of them.

I think the role that really shouldn't be claiming yet is villager.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:36 am

Maniac wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:09 am

So I started as the Drunk. Anyone want to CC me go ahead.

Which card did you pick?

Middle for diddle

So if Teccles and Maniac are both telling the truth, they are now both the *same* role, and neither of them knows what it is. Correct?

So at this point teccles and I would make very bad choices for a daykill.

We each start with around 15% chance of drawing a werewolf card. Now teccles and I effectively clear one another of starting with a werewolf card the other eight players have around 18% chance of being werewolf.

It's possible of course that one or two of the hidden cards were werewolf. But as each one had a 15% chance of being werewolf and I choose one/three, teccles and I are only around 5% likely to be werewolf.

There is a chance I'm the tanner (around 7%) which we'd want to avoid anyway and a remote chance I'm the minion and the remaining two hidden cards are werewolf which would be the only situation where killing me as the minion would be good for town.

If the seer happened to peak at the centre card, both teccles and I are clear. If they peaked at another card then the maths change again.