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Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:46 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:42 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:41 am

I have no reason to pocket Rumi
And I didn't pocket Rumi last game lol

That is not what your first post of M75 indicates.

I literally spent a very large part of the game voting for and fighting with Rumi. If you want to read into my sincerity later and say it was a pocketing attempt to ahead but I'm not going to lie about what happened and Rumi was never in my pocket nor did I want her to be.

I was just saying that if you are mafia and you give a strong town read of someone in your first post, it comes across as pocketing.

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:47 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:41 am

Welcome to my scum pile enjoy your stay ^^

Why have I passed Tom on you suspect list, and even so, why not stick with a wagon you liked that was tied for the lead?

Vibes. Approach. Nobody said Tom isn't still a suspect. I got time, I move my vote a lot.

OK, but by moving your vote off of Tom now, don't you think you are reducing the chance he will be the DK?

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:41 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:20 am

I gave you a chance to push your Tom wagon and this is your response?

Welcome to my scum pile enjoy your stay ^^

Why have I passed Tom on you suspect list, and even so, why not stick with a wagon you liked that was tied for the lead?

I like this questioning from bozo. Because I know I’m town, I sorta townlean Neon since I think scum would stay on me there. But I see where bozos coming from and I think its genuine hunting

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:49 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:46 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:42 am

That is not what your first post of M75 indicates.

I literally spent a very large part of the game voting for and fighting with Rumi. If you want to read into my sincerity later and say it was a pocketing attempt to ahead but I'm not going to lie about what happened and Rumi was never in my pocket nor did I want her to be.

I was just saying that if you are mafia and you give a strong town read of someone in your first post, it comes across as pocketing.

Insert hmm anime gif

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:52 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:41 am

Welcome to my scum pile enjoy your stay ^^

Why have I passed Tom on you suspect list, and even so, why not stick with a wagon you liked that was tied for the lead?

I like this questioning from bozo. Because I know I’m town, I sorta townlean Neon since I think scum would stay on me there. But I see where bozos coming from and I think its genuine hunting

I disagree Bozo is spending time and effort on things that scum can easily point to and say "see im solving" but in reality is just surface level look at me I'm here and generating content.

For bozos survey, I think scum would likely end up with vig, vengeful, backup and maybe hooker. Hard to pass up roles that kill and expedite the game imo

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:51 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:47 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

Why have I passed Tom on you suspect list, and even so, why not stick with a wagon you liked that was tied for the lead?

Vibes. Approach. Nobody said Tom isn't still a suspect. I got time, I move my vote a lot.

OK, but by moving your vote off of Tom now, don't you think you are reducing the chance he will be the DK?

No. I think the fact that everyone assumes that my RVS vote is someone I am both willing to hammer and will stay on the whole phase fundamentally doesn't understand the power of one's vote

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:54 am

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:52 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

Why have I passed Tom on you suspect list, and even so, why not stick with a wagon you liked that was tied for the lead?

I like this questioning from bozo. Because I know I’m town, I sorta townlean Neon since I think scum would stay on me there. But I see where bozos coming from and I think its genuine hunting

I disagree Bozo is spending time and effort on things that scum can easily point to and say "see im solving" but in reality is just surface level look at me I'm here and generating content.

So you think his analysis of your vote move and his survey is both “look at me solve” type stuff?

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:38 am

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:34 am

I think sabi and neon both refused

Thanks. At the moment I am willing to vote for any of these three.

How likely do you think it is that anyone who thinks the poll is a waste of time and doesn't participate is woof?

What's the point as a woof I can just participate and lie about every role I would pick and not draw this attention to myself. People reading into this poll will live in my scum pile.

That is part of the point of the survey, the mafia will try to do what looks like town, it is how well they do it that can be informative.

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:55 am

For bozos survey, I think scum would likely end up with vig, vengeful, backup and maybe hooker. Hard to pass up roles that kill and expedite the game imo

Mafia role predictions:
bozo: hooker, vengeful, day vig, universal backup
Rumi Tobari: hooker, day vig, universal backup, fake inventor
brainbomb: day vig, universal backup, strongman, tracker
worcej: hooker, day vig, universal backup, fake inventor
DemonRHK: day vig, universal backup, jailor, odd cop
dargorygel: day vig, universal backup, fake inventor, double vote
pyxxy: day vig, hooker, universal backup, tracker
damo: hooker, vengeful, day vig, tracker
Tom: hooker, vengeful, day vig, universal backup

Those who have not participated are now in the minority.

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:56 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:54 am

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:52 am

I like this questioning from bozo. Because I know I’m town, I sorta townlean Neon since I think scum would stay on me there. But I see where bozos coming from and I think its genuine hunting

I disagree Bozo is spending time and effort on things that scum can easily point to and say "see im solving" but in reality is just surface level look at me I'm here and generating content.

So you think his analysis of your vote move and his survey is both “look at me solve” type stuff?

Frankly yes. It's base level look I help stuff.

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:38 am

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:34 am

I think sabi and neon both refused

Thanks. At the moment I am willing to vote for any of these three.

How likely do you think it is that anyone who thinks the poll is a waste of time and doesn't participate is woof?

What's the point as a woof I can just participate and lie about every role I would pick and not draw this attention to myself. People reading into this poll will live in my scum pile.

I'm trying to enforce participation.

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:10 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:03 am

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:59 am

Oh god. I didn't even notice that.

Seriously? Is this about to be a repeat of last game? Where some people get blindly defended because liking them?

I was not in the last game, so I do not understand your reference.

Sabi hard defended Neon and insisted she wasn't scum the whole game. (until they were killed). Neon's replacement turned out to be scum.

Even here, Sabi's vote for Bona feels more based in personal feelings rather than anything Bona has done all game. I mean, show me some facts and I'll throw my vote behind Bona.

Some of the votes here feel more memey than substantial, particularly the ones for Tom.

And seriously Bona, wasn't it you (or was it someone else) who told me self-voting was anti-town last game.

tl;dr Personal feelings about something outside the game or prior friendships have no place in something where facts matter. Not things like "I like them." or "the people I invited gate a d1 pass on being voted" (note: both people Sabi invited last game turned out to be scum)

not to again go too deep into theory but by the nature of the game a lot of early votes/cases will be memey and insubstantial, because we're starting from a position of no information. that doesn't make it all pointless - part of how movement is generated is by making votes/accusations that are trivial, and this helps build discussion that eventually becomes more substantial. Sabi's initial vote on Bona was a meme vote but I believe the claim of a "N0 red" was an expression of a serious read that sabi had on bona's posts so far and i liked that for sabi.

of course it's okay if you don't have anyone you suspect yourself so far, but don't try to fret too much about others doing things that seems reachy or silly to you

(had this typed last night but then my wifi went out)

I have caught up on the eight pages I was sleeping thru.

Hi catbae.

Bozo is still pouting over people not doing his poll. If bozo actually read my post I have hinted at what I would have wanted. Something something skill issue.

Neon Rumi worcejic brain seem towny

That's all I got. I'm still sick.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:57 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:38 am

Thanks. At the moment I am willing to vote for any of these three.

How likely do you think it is that anyone who thinks the poll is a waste of time and doesn't participate is woof?

What's the point as a woof I can just participate and lie about every role I would pick and not draw this attention to myself. People reading into this poll will live in my scum pile.

That is part of the point of the survey, the mafia will try to do what looks like town, it is how well they do it that can be informative.

I think you vastly overestimate how effective this survey will be.

I'd hate to have my skill insulted by Brainbomb again but people who spend a large portion of their posts focused on mechanics are more often than not woof. It's easy, speculate on mech and people think you look helpful.

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:04 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:56 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:54 am

I disagree Bozo is spending time and effort on things that scum can easily point to and say "see im solving" but in reality is just surface level look at me I'm here and generating content.

So you think his analysis of your vote move and his survey is both “look at me solve” type stuff?

Frankly yes. It's base level look I help stuff.

Unfortunately bozo doing polls and surveys is NAI because he does it as both scum and town.

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:06 pm

I have caught up on the eight pages I was sleeping thru.

Hi catbae.

Bozo is still pouting over people not doing his poll. If bozo actually read my post I have hinted at what I would have wanted. Something something skill issue.

Neon Rumi worcejic brain seem towny

That's all I got. I'm still sick.

#GetPocketed

Jk I'm town and ilu <3

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:07 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:57 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 am

How likely do you think it is that anyone who thinks the poll is a waste of time and doesn't participate is woof?

What's the point as a woof I can just participate and lie about every role I would pick and not draw this attention to myself. People reading into this poll will live in my scum pile.

That is part of the point of the survey, the mafia will try to do what looks like town, it is how well they do it that can be informative.

I think you vastly overestimate how effective this survey will be.

I'd hate to have my skill insulted by Brainbomb again but people who spend a large portion of their posts focused on mechanics are more often than not woof. It's easy, speculate on mech and people think you look helpful.

Well, at least it will hopefully force people to read the setup lol

Imagine anyone on webdip mafia reading the set up

@wolfu thoughts re survey?