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Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:45 pm

This was a serious question because I was factorying strongman as The Killer into my interpretation of the PR order of operations as far as name tag exchanges go. But Jamie's explanation there told me my assumption about how it worked was completely wrong.

pyxxy wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:42 pm

Why would it be a scumslip?

It might be an attempt at a townslip but why would it be a scumslip? Scum would know all this already.

Before I re-asked my call gm question and you answered, Rumi wrote this:

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:10 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:05 pm

The way the Bus Driver interacts with the name tags is a bit broken in this setup if you ask me, because it occurs to me that the Bus Driver can *choose* which person's name tag they steal, and which person they give their original name tag to.

Maybe I am thinking about this too much. Meh.

No. I fully agree with you. Night events are an order of operations problem: BCFSD
Bus trades on swap
Cop trades on scan
Florist trades on delivery
Strongman trades on kill
Doctor trades on heal

Neon claimed the flower delivery. So assuming that is true, it means Neon has drag's original tag, and the Strongman now has Neon's.

But on the subject of your thoughts that Bus Driver is broken, do you feel it would be less so if Bus came after Cop or Florist in the order of operations.

Bolding is mine.

Also Rumi's order is wrong, it's BFCMD.

Rumi's post is why I re-asked my question. Because only scum would know which scum went to perform the kill.

And specifically the google doc setup says mafia, not strongman:

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> MAFIA kill/overkill

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:36 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:32 pm

Ok, fair. The answer is that the Mafia collectively decide on which one of them will perform the kill, and it can be any of them - however if they want to use the Strongman power then of course on that night in particular it has to be the Strongman that performs the kill. I'll let DemonVHS confirm this but I am 100% confident of this answer.

Okay. I guess I didn't read the setup close enough. I thought strongman performed the kill.

I don't think this is an open and shut case of scumslip.

Rumi has been very active and self-aware in the thread, and could have remembered what he wrote 2 hours ago.

But I think it's suspicious to pro-actively say "oops I was wrong about that" when no one's even pointed it out yet. There's being self-aware, and there's trying to distract someone from pointing out that you messed up.

Am I completely off-base here?

pyxxy wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:58 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:45 pm

This was a serious question because I was factorying strongman as The Killer into my interpretation of the PR order of operations as far as name tag exchanges go. But Jamie's explanation there told me my assumption about how it worked was completely wrong.

Side note I already put this in my J'accuse post but I'll say it again to be helpful and clear, you got the order wrong ~2.5 hours ago, it's BFCMD, jsyk

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:43 pm

Just to make sure.

##CALL GM

Do all of the Name Tags which have no special modifiers or effects, have the actual word "Vanilla" on them?

I think the Elliot Ness nametag says "you scan as Vanilla"

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:33 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:28 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:56 am

I still have a lot of pages to read.

Bona is a good wagon. Eden and Snowy are bad wagons.

##vote Celaph

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would rdr say Bona is a good wagon then immediately vote for Celaph. I don't see any clear reasoning or logic to this.

If Bona and Rivera are scum teammates, maybe it makes sense.

I'd be quite fine with a Rivera wagon.

##Vote rivera

Oh boy, if I'm on personal vanity wagons, I'm basically just the "for awareness" of votes

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm

President Eden wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm

Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna

Is that in any particular order?

How does one feel about pyxxy specifically?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:55 pm

can you guys like, talk less

I can barely hear myself think with all this giggling and inane babbling going on

Vecna wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:02 pm

Why is this daniel pancake individual edditing the google doc with the role information

is that the GM? because else thats messed up yo

Vecna wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:02 pm

Why is this daniel pancake individual edditing the google doc with the role information

is that the GM? because else thats messed up yo

pyxxy wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

(moderately large post)
Am I completely off-base here?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:04 pm

now it looks like the edits are being reverted

I better hope this is demonRHK doing that stuff, or this is gonna get some banhammer swings

Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:01 pm

Am I the only one who rememebrs that Chaqa admitted like 50 pages ago at the beginning of N1 that he has no voting power.