M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Vecna]

Did the color-code thing. I put Maniac in a light green because it seems unlikely he is scum, but he's not conftown.

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why is dv in green?

I've just been operating under the assumption it's town as I was pretty sure mafia would recruit. Updated to be more accurate:

Day 1:
Fluminator (9) BunnyGo, Jamiet99u​k, dargorygel, damo666, kgray, seth24c, Maniac, teacon7, 'The Double Vote'
Jamiet99uk (5) ghug, Fluminator, Chaqa, Hamilton Brian, bo_sox48
teacon7 (2) Vecna, rdrivera2005
ghug​ (1) Macca573
BunnyGo (1) bozotheclown

Day 2:
Hellenic Riot (7) Jamiet99uk, seth24c, Hamilton Brian, dargorygel, Vecna, Maniac, Chaqa
dargorygel (4) BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, ghug, kgray
Maniac (3) bo_sox48, teacon7, rdrivera2005
teacon7 (2) damo666, The Double Vote
kgray (1) Flum

Day 3:
bo_sox48 (7) rdrivera2005, Macca573, damo6​66, seth24c, kgray, Maniac, ghug
seth24c (4) BunnyGo, da​rgorygel, Chaqa, The Double Vote
Maniac (2) Jamiet99uk, bo_sox48
kgray (1) Vecna

recruit the dv?

[Jamiet99uk]

but if you think I wouldnt see this jamiet-level trap-card coming from a mile away if I was scum, let alone scum with bunny, and provide a super compelling argumentation.....

its not like that shit is difficult to fabricate. I just dont have a strong read on bunny, and did not feel like bullshitting some reasoning together for my gutread

Oh ok.

[Vecna]

yes. yes he has

I'm actually relatively hopeful this morning.

I too was too uninformed and jumping to conclusions too quickly.

such a weird system to not precount early votes in secret, but save those till last.

[Vecna]

I don't think we should do it yet, but is there a point at which a massclaim benefits town? Bozo would know.

after a scumflip to figure oit there strategy, if were very desperate

[ghug]

@ghug how convinced are you that Vecna is mechanically town?

93.75%?

[Chaqa]

Incorrect.

You smell like seafood

Sorry, I haven't had time to shower since I waved goodbye to your mom.

I'm so glad we can +1 posts.

[Chaqa]

why is dv in green?

I've just been operating under the assumption it's town as I was pretty sure mafia would recruit. Updated to be more accurate:

Day 1:
Fluminator (9) BunnyGo, Jamiet99u​k, dargorygel, damo666, kgray, seth24c, Maniac, teacon7, 'The Double Vote'
Jamiet99uk (5) ghug, Fluminator, Chaqa, Hamilton Brian, bo_sox48
teacon7 (2) Vecna, rdrivera2005
ghug​ (1) Macca573
BunnyGo (1) bozotheclown

Day 2:
Hellenic Riot (7) Jamiet99uk, seth24c, Hamilton Brian, dargorygel, Vecna, Maniac, Chaqa
dargorygel (4) BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, ghug, kgray
Maniac (3) bo_sox48, teacon7, rdrivera2005
teacon7 (2) damo666, The Double Vote
kgray (1) Flum

Day 3:
bo_sox48 (7) rdrivera2005, Macca573, damo6​66, seth24c, kgray, Maniac, ghug
seth24c (4) BunnyGo, da​rgorygel, Chaqa, The Double Vote
Maniac (2) Jamiet99uk, bo_sox48
kgray (1) Vecna

recruit the dv?

Pretty sure they would recruit a fourth member? Didn't think the word recruit was ambiguous here

[ghug]

lmao so chaqa is conf!scum.

#morelikelyatownslip

There's only one way that could be a townslip and I'm not buying it.

Putting your own thoughts into a list like that is a pretty good sign that you're mostly concerned with making it useful for your own solving, which is townie.

[rdrivera2005]

So, we are royally screwed. Sorry Bo, really thought you were scum.

Not counting with PRs, we start the day with 7/4 (more likely) or 8/4 if we count Flum. So, we have only one misskill left, unless a PR made some great choices.

Doesn't seem to me like you really thought bo was scum:

I don't want to kill Bo today to be honest, but someone that voted HR yesterday and will change my vote later. Seth are another great candidate and Maniac first list probably hold some scum in it.

Why not vote Chaqa then??

I don't think it's a viable wagon now, specially with Maniac shenanigans.

By the way, if Bo flips scum I think Darg5o is also scum, he is trying really hard to get another wagon going.

He wasn't my first option, but after his reaction to being a wagon (with that half claim and a don't care attitude) and Dargo tryng to get another wagon going I tought we have nailed a scum (two in fact).

[Jamiet99uk]

I've just been operating under the assumption it's town as I was pretty sure mafia would recruit. Updated to be more accurate:

Day 1:
Fluminator (9) BunnyGo, Jamiet99u​k, dargorygel, damo666, kgray, seth24c, Maniac, teacon7, 'The Double Vote'
Jamiet99uk (5) ghug, Fluminator, Chaqa, Hamilton Brian, bo_sox48
teacon7 (2) Vecna, rdrivera2005
ghug​ (1) Macca573
BunnyGo (1) bozotheclown

Day 2:
Hellenic Riot (7) Jamiet99uk, seth24c, Hamilton Brian, dargorygel, Vecna, Maniac, Chaqa
dargorygel (4) BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, ghug, kgray
Maniac (3) bo_sox48, teacon7, rdrivera2005
teacon7 (2) damo666, The Double Vote
kgray (1) Flum

Day 3:
bo_sox48 (7) rdrivera2005, Macca573, damo6​66, seth24c, kgray, Maniac, ghug
seth24c (4) BunnyGo, da​rgorygel, Chaqa, The Double Vote
Maniac (2) Jamiet99uk, bo_sox48
kgray (1) Vecna

recruit the dv?

Pretty sure they would recruit a fourth member? Didn't think the word recruit was ambiguous here

Yes but then that fourth person has to get a roll.

They could rand DV in that slot.

[Jamiet99uk]

a *role

[Chaqa]

recruit the dv?

Pretty sure they would recruit a fourth member? Didn't think the word recruit was ambiguous here

Yes but then that fourth person has to get a roll.

They could rand DV in that slot.

So my ignoring like a 1/13ish is a scumslip?

ok lol

[ghug]

So, we are royally screwed. Sorry Bo, really thought you were scum.

Not counting with PRs, we start the day with 7/4 (more likely) or 8/4 if we count Flum. So, we have only one misskill left, unless a PR made some great choices.

Doesn't seem to me like you really thought bo was scum:

I don't want to kill Bo today to be honest, but someone that voted HR yesterday and will change my vote later. Seth are another great candidate and Maniac first list probably hold some scum in it.

I don't think it's a viable wagon now, specially with Maniac shenanigans.

By the way, if Bo flips scum I think Darg5o is also scum, he is trying really hard to get another wagon going.

He wasn't my first option, but after his reaction to being a wagon (with that half claim and a don't care attitude) and Dargo tryng to get another wagon going I tought we have nailed a scum (two in fact).

Next question: why would you ever apologize to bo for anything?

[Jamiet99uk]

Pretty sure they would recruit a fourth member? Didn't think the word recruit was ambiguous here

Yes but then that fourth person has to get a roll.

They could rand DV in that slot.

So my ignoring like a 1/13ish is a scumslip?

ok lol

No.
It would be a scumslip if it hinted that you *knew* the alignment of the DV.

[Chaqa]

Anyway, I'm gonna go focus on work for a bit. I'll put an EoN post of some sort later

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes but then that fourth person has to get a roll.

They could rand DV in that slot.

So my ignoring like a 1/13ish is a scumslip?

ok lol

No.
It would be a scumslip if it hinted that you *knew* the alignment of the DV.

(Unless it indicates you know this for another reason obv)

[kgray]

#morelikelyatownslip

There's only one way that could be a townslip and I'm not buying it.

Putting your own thoughts into a list like that is a pretty good sign that you're mostly concerned with making it useful for your own solving, which is townie.

Oh really? You think Chaqa is trying to do his own solving? What gave you the impression that his list was useful to him?

He posted it because you asked him to. He didn't comment on it or do any wagon analysis or anything.

[Chaqa]

There's only one way that could be a townslip and I'm not buying it.

Putting your own thoughts into a list like that is a pretty good sign that you're mostly concerned with making it useful for your own solving, which is townie.

Oh really? You think Chaqa is trying to do his own solving? What gave you the impression that his list was useful to him?

He posted it because you asked him to. He didn't comment on it or do any wagon analysis or anything.

A quick note -

I don't do analysis at night that often. It only gives mafia information.

And why do I need analysis when we have basically a caught scum in you we just are being too stubborn to flip?

[ghug]

So my ignoring like a 1/13ish is a scumslip?

ok lol

No.
It would be a scumslip if it hinted that you *knew* the alignment of the DV.

(Unless it indicates you know this for another reason obv)

Yes. Scum, please nightkill the double voter, Chaqa. And remember to tip your fisherman. He needs to go drink in a crowded bar before the government officially tells him not to.

[kgray]

Putting your own thoughts into a list like that is a pretty good sign that you're mostly concerned with making it useful for your own solving, which is townie.

Oh really? You think Chaqa is trying to do his own solving? What gave you the impression that his list was useful to him?

He posted it because you asked him to. He didn't comment on it or do any wagon analysis or anything.

A quick note -

I don't do analysis at night that often. It only gives mafia information.

And why do I need analysis when we have basically a caught scum in you we just are being too stubborn to flip?

You've done no analysis at any point of this entire game. You've done nothing at all except for piggy back on other people's scumreads of me and tunnel.