MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3221 Post by President Eden » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm

Bro I typoed “nine” so bad it autocorrected to “one.”

Lmao

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3222 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:51 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Uhhhh..... who?
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3223 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:51 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:28 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:56 am
I still have a lot of pages to read.

Bona is a good wagon. Eden and Snowy are bad wagons.

##vote Celaph
This doesn't make sense to me. Why would rdr say Bona is a good wagon then immediately vote for Celaph. I don't see any clear reasoning or logic to this.
I think Bona is a good wagon but I don't want a runaway wagon at start of the day and decide to explore other options.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3224 Post by Rumi Tobari » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:51 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:49 pm
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:25 pm
##PEEK
You have learned you are ANDY TAYLOR (Vanilla)!
This is what the PM looks like. I am now officially terrified of where the nametags are distributed. And I'm worried about expressing details, because It is something that came up but nobody seems to be remembering.

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#3225 Post by President Eden » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:51 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Uhhhh..... who?
MIND GOBLIN DEEZ NUTS

GOTTEM

##vote eden
##end

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3226 Post by snowy801 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Is that in any particular order?

How does one feel about pyxxy specifically?

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3227 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:51 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:49 pm
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:25 pm
##PEEK
You have learned you are ANDY TAYLOR (Vanilla)!
This is what the PM looks like. I am now officially terrified of where the nametags are distributed. And I'm worried about expressing details, because It is something that came up but nobody seems to be remembering.
Please don't actually quote private GM messages.

It's technically against the rules.
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#3228 Post by Vecna » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

its actually sort of interesting, if you assume competent play on the scums part

theyd obviously want to use their information advantage, and the days outcome to their advantage, which they basically could do with the bus driver to try and get all the positive nametags on their own guys.

im guessing its also a pretty interesting puzzle to figure out, both for them during the night, and to now replicate the most likely tag jumps.

not sure if speculating on it now is wise, since it might influence behaviour

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3229 Post by Chaqa » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:43 pm
Just to make sure.

##CALL GM

Do all of the Name Tags which have no special modifiers or effects, have the actual word "Vanilla" on them?
I think the Elliot Ness nametag says "you scan as Vanilla"

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#3230 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:51 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Uhhhh..... who?
MIND GOBLIN DEEZ NUTS

GOTTEM

##vote eden
##end
Goat huck?
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#3231 Post by DemonRHK » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:43 pm
Just to make sure.

##CALL GM

Do all of the Name Tags which have no special modifiers or effects, have the actual word "Vanilla" on them?
##GM NOTE

All nametags have an added descriptor of what they are, regardless of if they do anything or not in official communications.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3232 Post by pyxxy » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:42 pm
Why would it be a scumslip?

It might be an attempt at a townslip but why would it be a scumslip? Scum would know all this already.
Before I re-asked my call gm question and you answered, Rumi wrote this:
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:10 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:05 pm
The way the Bus Driver interacts with the name tags is a bit broken in this setup if you ask me, because it occurs to me that the Bus Driver can *choose* which person's name tag they steal, and which person they give their original name tag to.

Maybe I am thinking about this too much. Meh.
No. I fully agree with you. Night events are an order of operations problem: BCFSD
Bus trades on swap
Cop trades on scan
Florist trades on delivery
Strongman trades on kill
Doctor trades on heal

Neon claimed the flower delivery. So assuming that is true, it means Neon has drag's original tag, and the Strongman now has Neon's.

But on the subject of your thoughts that Bus Driver is broken, do you feel it would be less so if Bus came after Cop or Florist in the order of operations.
Bolding is mine.

Also Rumi's order is wrong, it's BFCMD.

Rumi's post is why I re-asked my question. Because only scum would know which scum went to perform the kill.

And specifically the google doc setup says mafia, not strongman:

Code: Select all

> MAFIA kill/overkill
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:36 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:32 pm
Ok, fair. The answer is that the Mafia collectively decide on which one of them will perform the kill, and it can be any of them - however if they want to use the Strongman power then of course on that night in particular it has to be the Strongman that performs the kill. I'll let DemonVHS confirm this but I am 100% confident of this answer.
Okay. I guess I didn't read the setup close enough. I thought strongman performed the kill.
I don't think this is an open and shut case of scumslip.

Rumi has been very active and self-aware in the thread, and could have remembered what he wrote 2 hours ago.

But I think it's suspicious to pro-actively say "oops I was wrong about that" when no one's even pointed it out yet. There's being self-aware, and there's trying to distract someone from pointing out that you messed up.

Am I completely off-base here?

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3233 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:43 pm
Just to make sure.

##CALL GM

Do all of the Name Tags which have no special modifiers or effects, have the actual word "Vanilla" on them?
I think the Elliot Ness nametag says "you scan as Vanilla"
It says "You scan as Innocent".

There isn't a Vanilla Cop in this setup.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3234 Post by Chaqa » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Who is MindGoblin?

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#3235 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:55 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:43 pm
Just to make sure.

##CALL GM

Do all of the Name Tags which have no special modifiers or effects, have the actual word "Vanilla" on them?
##GM NOTE

All nametags have an added descriptor of what they are, regardless of if they do anything or not in official communications.
##CALL GM

Not what I asked you, sorry.

I am asking you if any of the name tags include the ACTUAL WORD "Vanilla" or not?

Please answer?
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3236 Post by Vecna » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:55 pm

can you guys like, talk less

I can barely hear myself think with all this giggling and inane babbling going on

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3237 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:55 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Who is MindGoblin?
MIND GOBBLIN' DEEZ NUTS hur hur hur
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3238 Post by Vecna » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:55 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm
Four of the following one people are mafia:

Bona
bo
snowy
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
MindGoblin
pyxxy
rdrivera
Vecna
Who is MindGoblin?
I mean, he literally said bona equals 4 scum. keep up

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3239 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:56 pm

pyxxy wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:53 pm
I don't think this is an open and shut case of scumslip.

Rumi has been very active and self-aware in the thread, and could have remembered what he wrote 2 hours ago.

But I think it's suspicious to pro-actively say "oops I was wrong about that" when no one's even pointed it out yet. There's being self-aware, and there's trying to distract someone from pointing out that you messed up.

Am I completely off-base here?
Oh this is a pretty interesting observation.

Well spotted.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#3240 Post by Princess Neon » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:57 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:47 pm
Princess Neon wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:45 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:43 pm


Well they definitely used it, that's for sure.
At the risk of continuing to sound stupid is there a reason to assume they used it?
It's compulsive.

If you read the Bus Driver role description in the setup sheet, it says "At night, you must" rather than "At night, you may" when describing the bus driving action.

That is, the Bus Driver is required to perform their action each night, and cannot choose to do nothing.
Cool thanks *insert anime salute*

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