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teacon7 wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 2:40 am

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 5:51 pm

teacon7 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 2:15 pm

Third party does look like fun. I don't think I've ever done it.

That said, I don't think town/scum are the same at all. Seems to me like there's massive differences in playstyle and objective, don't you? Accounting for a real preference for 3rd party... Why dodge the question?

heh this wasn't even supposed to be a deep question

So a friendly amendment to what I asked: Of these two options: a) Town b) Scum ... which do you prefer to play as, and why?

Honestly? Both are quite fun for me, since the objective is the same: pretend I know shit going on, and avoid dying xD
and it’s fun to devil’s advocate other people’s reads.
(this isn’t avoiding the question intentionally lol)

Let's break this down:

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 5:51 pm

Honestly?

A wise woman told me a story once about the word "honestly." She said that if a guy comes to you and tells you to believe him, because "honestly!" or "really, i mean it this time" or "let me be straight with you." ...you have to be careful. Because they're either lying right there and feel the need for extra persuasion, OR they're usually lying, and feel the need to add a little extra persuasion when they actually do tell the truth.

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 5:51 pm

Both are quite fun for me, since the objective is the same: pretend I know shit going on, and avoid dying xD
and it’s fun to devil’s advocate other people’s reads.

The objective is manifestly NOT the same between town and scum.
Town doesn't know what's going on, and is trying to figure it out. Scum DOES know what's going on, and is trying to pretend they don't know. Town wants to solve, scum wants to live + NK + ML their way to victory.

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 5:51 pm

(this isn’t avoiding the question intentionally lol)

Well then you're unintentionally avoiding the question. Which is functionally the same. Xorx put it well - no one is perfectly bisexual / ambivalent about preferred alignment.

Why would that matter?
1) As town, you have no reason not to pick a side here.
1.a If you're town and like town, you're comfortable saying "I like being town" and that's it.
1.b If you're town and like playing scum, you're a bit uncomfortable saying it, but there's no real reason not to. Newbie town tends to try to nerviously self-preserve, but I get the sense that you've played (and GM'd) often enough that you don't deserve a newbie pass on this.
2) As scum, you'd have every subconscious reason to hedge on this question:
2.a If you're scum and say "I like playing scum" ... you feel a bit exposed because you implied you might be scum, so it's risky.
2.b If you're scum and say "I like playing town" ... you feel like you're lying a bit, because you're currently not playing as town.

So: this is maybe nitpicking, but also could indicate nervous scum tics, so...

Why so hesitant to commit to answering the question?
Why not jump on ND?

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 1:56 am

Teacon, I can't tell how rusty he actually is, but he comes off as experienced enough to know what's going on - so he's null. Completely unrelated to alignment feelings, but his style so far is one I like.

Thanks! :) The above post is nothing personal, understand, but i'd be remiss if i ignored the gut intuitions outlined above. Thanks for your time and answers...

ND wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:40 am

I actually laughed at that bcoz I just knew she would jump on me. Every game. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. She just votes for me. If I actually do survive this phase (doubt it) she will end probably every phase on me. Straight up fact.

Am I rite or what Derpna?

teacon7 wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:28 am

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:23 am

I'll

...you gonna finish that thought?

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:48 am

ND wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:40 am

I actually laughed at that bcoz I just knew she would jump on me. Every game. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. She just votes for me. If I actually do survive this phase (doubt it) she will end probably every phase on me. Straight up fact.

Am I rite or what Derpna?

I think you're mixing me up with Tom Bombadil

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:53 am

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:53 am

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

MoscowFleet wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:17 am

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:53 am

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

Percy Williams wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:45 am

I feel like Teacon never went to an educational institution

ND wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:18 am

MoscowFleet wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:17 am

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 3:53 am

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

She doesn't read the game. She just pops on looks for a post I make and says something snide. There is no point in engaging Derpna in conversation. She exits after she gets her jollies off.

MoscowFleet wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:22 am

ND wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:18 am

MoscowFleet wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:17 am

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

She doesn't read the game. She just pops on looks for a post I make and says something snide. There is no point in engaging Derpna in conversation. She exits after she gets her jollies off.

Although I agree with your assessment of Durga’s playstyle, unfortunately it doesn’t say much about her alignment. She was almost exactly the same last game.

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 11:38 pm

teacon7 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 11:09 pm

xorxes wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 9:00 pm

Let's see, Durga-ND interaction seems like their usual interaction. Either one or both can easily fake it, so I don't really get anything from that.

emc-Vapor... Hmm.. Seems more unlikely both are scum together. Not sure.

Anything in particular from that page that caught your attention?

I agree with you on all counts here. I'm currently waiting to see whether emc would join me on ND. So far, he's been on but hasn't answered me.

@emc - is ND's play pro-town right now? Would you lynch ND today? Why or why not?

I wouldn't lynch him on the first day, no, since he's obviously baiting for something - if not attention for the lynch then attention for the reads or responses from people. It seems more prudent to see what that exactly is for, before just killing him, no?

(In addition, he took my fun style niche, so I want to see what he does with it)

As for whether he's pro-town or not, I say that would depend on who you are. For me personally, it seems as there is thought behind what he's been saying (unlike Durga's claim), and the capricious rambling is somewhat easier to follow than a more serious post - so not anti-town. For others, who find him spewing random spam...

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 11:39 pm

it wouldn't be effective to spoil the plan

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri May 17, 2019 4:27 am

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 11:38 pm

teacon7 wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2019 11:09 pm

I agree with you on all counts here. I'm currently waiting to see whether emc would join me on ND. So far, he's been on but hasn't answered me.

@emc - is ND's play pro-town right now? Would you lynch ND today? Why or why not?

I wouldn't lynch him on the first day, no, since he's obviously baiting for something - if not attention for the lynch then attention for the reads or responses from people. It seems more prudent to see what that exactly is for, before just killing him, no?

(In addition, he took my fun style niche, so I want to see what he does with it)

As for whether he's pro-town or not, I say that would depend on who you are. For me personally, it seems as there is thought behind what he's been saying (unlike Durga's claim), and the capricious rambling is somewhat easier to follow than a more serious post - so not anti-town. For others, who find him spewing random spam...

what's the "thought" ?