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Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:47 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:34 pm

I previously stated that I had found a cop scan crumb.

I went through most of the thread this last phase and managed to find the other three scans.

Now that the bot is up, I don't want to give away too much because while the crumbs aren't the easiest to find they are clear in meaning. If I am the NK cop can reveal and if the cop is the NK I can reveal their scans.

It turns out that our Cop has gotten two guilty scans.

One of which is: Vecna.

##VOTE Vecna
##END

why would you ever claim to have found a crumb, and what it was?

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:48 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:47 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:34 pm

I previously stated that I had found a cop scan crumb.

I went through most of the thread this last phase and managed to find the other three scans.

Now that the bot is up, I don't want to give away too much because while the crumbs aren't the easiest to find they are clear in meaning. If I am the NK cop can reveal and if the cop is the NK I can reveal their scans.

It turns out that our Cop has gotten two guilty scans.

One of which is: Vecna.

##VOTE Vecna
##END

why would you ever claim to have found a crumb, and what it was?

Are you saying I should say nothing and force the Clerk to claim today?!

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:37 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:34 pm

It turns out that our Cop has gotten two guilty scans.

Is there a reason you don't want to tell us the other one?

I think you should tell us the other one now as well.

I worry it will make it easy for Mafia (yes, I recognize if I found it there is decent chance Mafia does as well).

I don't think it is necessary because we can't lose the info. Unless Cop gets killed and I am actually lying Mafia. That is the main risk.

I think we should just trust the real cop (yes, I know it seems like PR hunting, I am not trying to. If literally everyone demands for the second guilty scan I guess I will be forced to unveil it).

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:49 pm

also why ever not let a cop make the call for themself to reveal or not?

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:51 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:49 pm

also why ever not let a cop make the call for themself to reveal or not?

I actually thought quite a bit about that.

If Clerk claims now they risk a CC battle (presumably with Vecna).

Another player finding there crumbs and announcing them? Seems exquisite to me. Can't imagine a better situation other than the game being solved.

If I was incorrect in announcing this, I apologize.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:51 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:37 pm

Is there a reason you don't want to tell us the other one?

I think you should tell us the other one now as well.

I worry it will make it easy for Mafia (yes, I recognize if I found it there is decent chance Mafia does as well).

I don't think it is necessary because we can't lose the info. Unless Cop gets killed and I am actually lying Mafia. That is the main risk.

I think we should just trust the real cop (yes, I know it seems like PR hunting, I am not trying to. If literally everyone demands for the second guilty scan I guess I will be forced to unveil it).

Make it easy for them how?

I'll let you into a secret: The Mafia team already knows who Vecna's team mates are.

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:53 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:51 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:49 pm

also why ever not let a cop make the call for themself to reveal or not?

I actually thought quite a bit about that.

If Clerk claims now they risk a CC battle (presumably with Vecna).

Another player finding there crumbs and announcing them? Seems exquisite to me. Can't imagine a better situation other than the game being solved.

If I was incorrect in announcing this, I apologize.

if the cop claims and has such obvious crumbs, how on earth do they lose? what on earth are you talking about

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:55 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:53 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 8:51 pm

I actually thought quite a bit about that.

If Clerk claims now they risk a CC battle (presumably with Vecna).

Another player finding there crumbs and announcing them? Seems exquisite to me. Can't imagine a better situation other than the game being solved.

If I was incorrect in announcing this, I apologize.

if the cop claims and has such obvious crumbs, how on earth do they lose? what on earth are you talking about

I'm done discussing this.

Either vote me for being lying Mafia or believe me and vote Vecna.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:00 pm

If Sweet is telling the truth, and is not the Cop, and has read the crumbs correctly, then there is another Town benefit to this play, which is that the Cop may be able to stay hidden and get at least one more scan.

Whereas, if the Cop claims this turn, then the Mafia will of course 100% kill them tonight.

Also, if Sweet is talking bullshit and, for example, the real Cop has an inno scan on Vecna, then they should *carefully consider* telling is that, so that we can kill scum!Sweet instead.

But I'm not sure why scum!Sweet would go to the lengths of creating this fake news.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:00 pm

If Sweet is telling the truth, and is not the Cop, and has read the crumbs correctly, then there is another Town benefit to this play, which is that the Cop may be able to stay hidden and get at least one more scan.

Whereas, if the Cop claims this turn, then the Mafia will of course 100% kill them tonight.

Also, if Sweet is talking bullshit and, for example, the real Cop has an inno scan on Vecna, then they should *carefully consider* telling is that, so that we can kill scum!Sweet instead.

But I'm not sure why scum!Sweet would go to the lengths of creating this fake news.

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:06 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:00 pm

If Sweet is telling the truth, and is not the Cop, and has read the crumbs correctly, then there is another Town benefit to this play, which is that the Cop may be able to stay hidden and get at least one more scan.

Whereas, if the Cop claims this turn, then the Mafia will of course 100% kill them tonight.

Also, if Sweet is talking bullshit and, for example, the real Cop has an inno scan on Vecna, then they should *carefully consider* telling is that, so that we can kill scum!Sweet instead.

But I'm not sure why scum!Sweet would go to the lengths of creating this fake news.

Urgh, I feel like such an idiot now.

I don't know why I didn't think about it, but I just realized I should have just straight up claimed.

But then I suppose I would have to worry about drawing the Clerk out.

But surely they wouldn't CC a proper scan?

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:08 pm

sweetandcool wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:06 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:00 pm

If Sweet is telling the truth, and is not the Cop, and has read the crumbs correctly, then there is another Town benefit to this play, which is that the Cop may be able to stay hidden and get at least one more scan.

Whereas, if the Cop claims this turn, then the Mafia will of course 100% kill them tonight.

Also, if Sweet is talking bullshit and, for example, the real Cop has an inno scan on Vecna, then they should *carefully consider* telling is that, so that we can kill scum!Sweet instead.

But I'm not sure why scum!Sweet would go to the lengths of creating this fake news.

Urgh, I feel like such an idiot now.

I don't know why I didn't think about it, but I just realized I should have just straight up claimed.

But then I suppose I would have to worry about drawing the Clerk out.

But surely they wouldn't CC a proper scan?

I am not sure what you mean by saying you feel like an idiot?

I was outlining the advantages to the approach you have chosen here. I was not calling you an idiot in the slightest.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:13 pm

After reviewing how D4 went, I realized that Vecna and Bonatogether have likely been bussing sweetandcool.

I still think sweetandcool is mafia and is trying to get out in front of the cop claim.

##VOTE Vecna

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:16 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sat May 11, 2024 9:13 pm

After reviewing how D4 went, I realized that Vecna and Bonatogether have likely been bussing sweetandcool.

I still think sweetandcool is mafia and is trying to get out in front of the cop claim.

##VOTE Vecna

You think a very great amount of bussing is taking place, don't you Bozo?

You think that Vecna has been bussing Sweetandcool, and that Sweetandcool has now concocted a grand scheme to bus Vecna even harder in return?