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Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:50 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:46 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:15 am

bozo, what have you concluded from your survey?

I have concluded you are scum.

You were saying that before the survey, no?

Yes, I was pointing out that the results did not change my mind.

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:28 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:21 pm

Interesting that my two top scumreads are both voting ghug. Not sure what it means but it's certainly interesting.

It is interesting.
I am also concerned that my second scumread is voting alongside me. Bussing, yeah... but...

Why do you suspect me to be mafia?

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:50 pm

President Eden wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:54 am

vote count

ghug (2): bozo, darg
darg (2): ghug, Squigs
bozo (1): Bona
Sabi (1): damo
damo (1): Llama
Bona (1): Jamie

non voters: Sabi

currently no one dies at the end of day 3 in approximately 15h06m.

Sabi still gotta vote

i’m driving all day tomorrow and might bully a dead player into doing the flip, but currently i plan to do it. i will not be frantically posting vote counts, we’ll have to lean on the bot.

I might be busy at EOD so I will vote later today but I need to make sure who I'm voting for is actually 100% rock solid scum because we can't afford another miskill.

Can you please provide your best guess at 3 player and 4 player scum teams?

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:49 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:59 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:51 pm

I certainly think it's a very strange thing to say.

Yes, Sabi need to address this. I think there may be a simple explanation but I want Sabi to answer first before I say any more.

Good morning,

I didn't know my typo would cause this much issue. I meant to write for not from. If you scroll through my posts you will see that i have talked about this several time. The original post about this was me answering Bona question right here:

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:23 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:53 pm

1) what is my usual scum hunt, in your view?

2) You said you don't see any issues with voting bozo off - who do you prefer to vote d3?

3) What were you expecting wrt celaph?

4) What are your thoughts on what ghug has done? What specific ghug posts contributed to that?

5) what are your initial thoughts on sqoogs, including bias and without rereads?

1) m70 you were a lot more active and intrograting everyone and their mother. Putting pressure on players and doing lots of VCA. The fact you haven't done that once this game is off to me.

2) bozo, damo, or celaph depending on how they are in day 3

3) kgray was vague but was like celaph is amazing and great to play mafia with and was very good at scumhunting. So I'm going based off that.

4) when I land from my flight I will do that. I'm on my phone and couldn't be assed to do that from my phone.

5) null to maybe townlean. I do appreciate the fact they did try to tunnel on me even if it was wrong and a reach. Like I said gotta reread and what not. Been busy unfortunately.

Sorry for the shitty answer. In the uber and I'm stressed about my flight status lol.

My answer for number 4. I was giving Bona updates on when I was going to answer his question about ghug. As you can tell I do make a lot of typos.


Anything else yall want to waste your time with today?

Why do you have your reads in a document and saving them for later?

Assuming my excluded scumpairs are correct Bozo's possible scum partners are

Sabi darg Jamie Squigs

Assuming Sabi and Jamie town the only possible team is BOZO DARG SQUIGS.

However darg has Bozo as his scum #2. However darg is (not unreasonably) voting his #1 but pressured me to do likewise i,e, to switch to Bozo. Now that seems unlikely so this implies Bozo not scum.

##unvote

Move on to analysis of scumchoice #2.

darg's possibles: Sabi Bozo DL ghug Jamie Squigs

Eliminating Sabi and Jamie as before and Bozo as above we are left with

darg + 2 or 3 from {DL ghug Squigs}

i.e 4 possible teams for darg

DL's possibles Sabi Darg ghug Jamie Squigs

Eliminating Sabi and Jamie we have

DL + 2 or 3 from {darg, ghug, Squigs}

Again 4 possible teams

Bona possibles: Sabi ghug Jamie

On the assumption Sabi and Jamie are town Bona cannot be scum

Damo are you more confident in your ability to exclude people as scumpairs then you are in identifying scum individually?

ghug possibles: Sabi Bona Darg DL Jamie Squigs

Eliminating Sabi and Jamie and Bona as per above we have

ghug + 2 or 3 from {darg, DL, Squigs}

again 4 teams

Squigs possibles: Sabi Bozo Darg DL ghug Jamie

Eliminating Sabi and Jamie and Bozo as per above

we have [you must have guessed by now]

ghug + 2 or 3 from {darg , DL, Squigs}

Yes, 4 possible teams.

Damo says he has a 60% scum read on Bozo. He also says Bozo can't be scum based on 6 separate observations (scumpair exclusions and townleans on Sabi/Jamie). Rather than revisit one of those 6 observations, damo concludes that Bozo must not be scum. Seems like he is more confident of those other 6 observations than he should be

Conclusion:

The scum team is any 3 or all 4 from {darg, DL, ghug, Squigs}

A team of 4 would imply ghug and Squigs heavily bussing darg (not impossible) so let's assume a team of 3 (more likely anyway for balance purposes).

As per above let's eliminate {darg, ghug, Squigs}

So we are left with

{darg, DL, ghug} [darg and ghug mutually bussing]
{darg, DL, Squigs} [Squigs bussing]
{DL, ghug, Squigs} [No bussing]

So I guess the last of these 3 is now my best guess.

I will ##vote DeathLlama for appearing in all possible teams.

Problems with my analysis:
i) my exclusions may be incorrect implying odd bussing days 1 and/or 2
ii) My assumptions that Jamie and/or Sabi are town are off the mark.

Anyway at the end of the day it's a guessing game, I just wanted to put a bit of logic behind it.

Basically, I'm lost lol.

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:58 pm

Damo says he has a 60% scum read on Bozo. He also says Bozo can't be scum based on 6 separate observations (scumpair exclusions and townleans on Sabi/Jamie). Rather than revisit one of those 6 observations, damo concludes that Bozo must not be scum. Seems like he is more confident of those other 6 observations than he should be

Yes I must agree. It's looking like my assumptions may be wrong. See xpost.

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:48 pm

Damo are you more confident in your ability to exclude people as scumpairs then you are in identifying scum individually?

Yes, especially when nobody is being overtly scummy.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Assuming my excluded scumpairs are correct Bozo's possible scum partners are

Sabi darg Jamie Squigs

Assuming Sabi and Jamie town the only possible team is BOZO DARG SQUIGS.

However darg has Bozo as his scum #2. However darg is (not unreasonably) voting his #1 but pressured me to do likewise i,e, to switch to Bozo. Now that seems unlikely so this implies Bozo not scum.

##unvote

Move on to analysis of scumchoice #2.

Lol
I urged you to vote your top scum, and not to be distracted. I AM biting my top scum. You should, too. Sabi said it right. Vote the person you are most sure. This whole pairing thing at this EoD is going to hurt us. I see the value, but mostly only if we can move on from here.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:07 pm

Squigs44 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:48 pm

Damo are you more confident in your ability to exclude people as scumpairs then you are in identifying scum individually?

Yes, especially when nobody is being overtly scummy.

Fwiw, this comment helps me see why you are using it. I still urge too scum.

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:08 pm

Also... (mysterious haunted house voice) rememmmmmber snowy's last words.

I remember them well. He said "Eat your greens and take your vitamins!" but I'm not sure how that helps us.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:33 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:08 pm

Also... (mysterious haunted house voice) rememmmmmber snowy's last words.

I remember them well. He said "Eat your greens and take your vitamins!" but I'm not sure how that helps us.

Oh no wait that was Hulk Hogan.

Snowy said we should kill Ghug.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:34 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:33 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:08 pm

Also... (mysterious haunted house voice) rememmmmmber snowy's last words.

I remember them well. He said "Eat your greens and take your vitamins!" but I'm not sure how that helps us.

Oh no wait that was Hulk Hogan.

Snowy said we should kill Ghug.

I thought Hulk Hogan said, " you wouldn't like me when I'm hungry!"