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Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:33 pm
by Chaqa
M88 Day 4 Vote Count 7
worcej (5): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous
sweetandcool (5): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether, BunnyGo, worcej
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown

Currently NO ONE is set to be killed.

~27 minutes remain

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:34 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Hi Worcej

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:34 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Sparty, Bozo, pick a horse.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:35 pm
by Hamilton Brian
worcej wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:27 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 5:42 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 12:55 pm


Unfortunately the votes here don't tell us much, I don't think.

I pushed LoW strongly on D2 so I have to take some of the blame for him being flipped.

Hamilton as the second wagon is not surprising given the way some of us responded to his claim. If Hamilton is scum with Worcej, Worcej bussing him is unsurprising. If Hamilton is town, idk.

Hmmm. Perhaps Hamilton does need to flip at some point.

I will have a question for Hamilton in due course; but he may have addressed it himself so I will catch up first.
I am wondering if there's a world where mafia wouldn't be on Hamilton Brian. I mean, if it's a town slot that looks dubious at best, and there's angry town, would mafia sit back and let angry town run it? We know LoW was town.

If it's a ludicrous suggestion, then worcej, bona, or king would make decent flips today. Seems that bona is big in people's townleans.

If it's not ludicours, then those 3 wouldn't be flipped other than the fact that I don't read them as very town.
I read this post and get confused...

If angry town are leading it, why do you want to kill the angry town?
I am not sure that's what I said. I am wondering if mafia would have avoided getting on my wagon, eliminating some possible flips.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:35 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Or we could flash wagon Bozo

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:37 pm
by sweetandcool
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:34 pm
Sparty, Bozo, pick a horse.
Sparta claimed they would eventually switch to worcej, presumably over my wagon.

Idk about Bozo, they are the wildcard.

Not sensing any defections from either wagon, though maybe there will be a shift to prevent a tie.

Unlikely to be much scum movement, since they are probably all piled on my wagon anyways.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:38 pm
by Spartaculous
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:37 pm
Sparta claimed they would eventually switch to worcej, presumably over my wagon.

Idk about Bozo, they are the wildcard.

Not sensing any defections from either wagon, though maybe there will be a shift to prevent a tie.

Unlikely to be much scum movement, since they are probably all piled on my wagon anyways.
As promised:

##VOTE worcej

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:40 pm
by Hamilton Brian
Hyposcan claims:

N1: ghug (inno)
N2: damo (inno)
N3: Balki (Inno)

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:44 pm
by bozotheclown
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm
##VOTE Bonatogether

I think there were probably 2 bussers in votes 2-5 on Just.
Why do you think that?
If the GF is going to be DKed D1, the mafia would want to be on the wagon. I think it is very unlikely the mafia stayed off the wagon and let 7 town DK the GF.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:45 pm
by bozotheclown
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:44 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm
##VOTE Bonatogether

I think there were probably 2 bussers in votes 2-5 on Just.
Why do you think that?
If the GF is going to be DKed D1, the mafia would want to be on the wagon. I think it is very unlikely the mafia stayed off the wagon and let 7 town DK the GF.
Or 6 town.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:46 pm
by Spartaculous
HypoClerk claim:

If I am Clerk, my scans were:

N1: bozotheclown scanned as Town
N2: BunnyGo scanned as Town
N3: (roleblocked)

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:46 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:44 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm
##VOTE Bonatogether

I think there were probably 2 bussers in votes 2-5 on Just.
Why do you think that?
If the GF is going to be DKed D1, the mafia would want to be on the wagon. I think it is very unlikely the mafia stayed off the wagon and let 7 town DK the GF.
Right. But at votes 2-5, they are less likely to suspect that the GF is going to be DKed, right? I don't think it seemed very likely that JustWill was going to be killed until the very end. Worcej's vote makes sense in that context (and ghug's), but I'm not sure the others do.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:48 pm
by Spartaculous
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:46 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:44 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm

Why do you think that?
If the GF is going to be DKed D1, the mafia would want to be on the wagon. I think it is very unlikely the mafia stayed off the wagon and let 7 town DK the GF.
Right. But at votes 2-5, they are less likely to suspect that the GF is going to be DKed, right? I don't think it seemed very likely that JustWill was going to be killed until the very end. Worcej's vote makes sense in that context (and ghug's), but I'm not sure the others do.
I guess this goes back to my D2 analysis: when Mafia are voted out on Day 1, you often have rather early bussers (as the second or third ones aboard the wagon).

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:50 pm
by bozotheclown
I still find sweetandcool suspicious for consistently finding scum reads in the players voting for him, and worcej is a good D1 bussing candidate.

I think I will stay off the wagons for now to keep them at an odd number.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:50 pm
by Chaqa
M88 Day 4 Vote Count 8
worcej (6): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous, Spartaculous
sweetandcool (5): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether, BunnyGo, worcej
Bonatogether (1): bozotheclown

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~10 minutes remain

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:51 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Spartaculous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:48 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:46 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:44 pm


If the GF is going to be DKed D1, the mafia would want to be on the wagon. I think it is very unlikely the mafia stayed off the wagon and let 7 town DK the GF.
Right. But at votes 2-5, they are less likely to suspect that the GF is going to be DKed, right? I don't think it seemed very likely that JustWill was going to be killed until the very end. Worcej's vote makes sense in that context (and ghug's), but I'm not sure the others do.
I guess this goes back to my D2 analysis: when Mafia are voted out on Day 1, you often have rather early bussers (as the second or third ones aboard the wagon).
I agree that's possible.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:51 pm
by bozotheclown
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:50 pm
I still find sweetandcool suspicious for consistently finding scum reads in the players voting for him, and worcej is a good D1 bussing candidate.

I think I will stay off the wagons for now to keep them at an odd number.
Unless someone moves off the wagons.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:52 pm
by sweetandcool
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:50 pm
I still find sweetandcool suspicious for consistently finding scum reads in the players voting for him, and worcej is a good D1 bussing candidate.

I think I will stay off the wagons for now to keep them at an odd number.
I have consistently for a while scummed Dip and Vecna.

Your argument only kind of applies to Bona, who I am not campaigning against because I'm super unsure there.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:53 pm
by bozotheclown
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:46 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:44 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 pm

Why do you think that?
If the GF is going to be DKed D1, the mafia would want to be on the wagon. I think it is very unlikely the mafia stayed off the wagon and let 7 town DK the GF.
Right. But at votes 2-5, they are less likely to suspect that the GF is going to be DKed, right? I don't think it seemed very likely that JustWill was going to be killed until the very end. Worcej's vote makes sense in that context (and ghug's), but I'm not sure the others do.
worcej was the fifth vote, at least the way D1 ended.

Re: Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:53 pm
by sweetandcool
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:52 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 7:50 pm
I still find sweetandcool suspicious for consistently finding scum reads in the players voting for him, and worcej is a good D1 bussing candidate.

I think I will stay off the wagons for now to keep them at an odd number.
I have consistently for a while scummed Dip and Vecna.

Your argument only kind of applies to Bona, who I am not campaigning against because I'm super unsure there.
They are both voting me because of my scumread on them. If you look at the timeline of this day, you will find there votes to be purely reactive.