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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:34 am
by celaph
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:48 pm
PART TETRA
[snip]
I think it's unlikely that Bona and Vecna are scum together given this defense and how little others focused on it before Bona's claim.
@vecna, why did you choose to try and trap Bob in this way?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:38 am
by celaph
jasnah wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:16 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:14 pm
Jasnah
no one has claimed an item was stolen
emc did not have his item stolen
therefore HR had his item stolen
or the Alien had their item stolen and doesnt want to claim because it draws attention to themself
Or, item thief waived. Why would you not consider this a possibility? It's viable option if item thief doesn't want to semi-clear anyone and/or wants to stack thefts for late game.
I'm a big fan of Jasnah's play so far this game. Showing good thought about how the item thief would act. And to the earlier concern of it being intentional, I don't feel like her messages are forced which makes me think it's a more natural evolution in style, one that I enjoy.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:40 am
by celaph
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:50 pm
I'm the deputy
Fuck you guys
I'm not coming back for hours
I really hope you're pulling a bb and fake claiming here as town, but I rather doubt it. This fits the dejected town Bona that I've seen in the past far too well.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:41 am
by celaph
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:41 pm
Also, now that both chaqa has flipped, and jamiet has become overwhelmingly likely town, I wanna crusade hard against bunny
If you didn't think Bob had responded to you, why did you drop the Bunny is Obvtown cover?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:42 am
by celaph
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:34 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:25 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:16 pm
I think scum are in: Bob, Thamrick, Maniac, ghug, lfsichl, celaph.
Rationale?
I find that hilarious coming from you.
This is a lovely retort, but also deflects from a serious question. Can you provide your rationale?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:48 am
by celaph
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:16 pm
PART SIEDEM
Am I really going to have to give even more town-points to Ghug here?
Can you speak to why you're afraid to give ghug townpoints? I agree at least with the point that ghug's play merits townpoints, but you seem to be far more afraid by the prospect.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:50 am
by celaph
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:12 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:09 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:55 pm
Fake
youve tolerated far worse before.
It's not fake. He doesn't seem capable of comprehension.
Fine. I am now returning to M61 bona and will not post. I thought I was doing a good thing given the circumstances, but now I'm on the block for it (although I think this is a heavily scum-driven push). I'll go make some VCA post.
A brief review of M61 suggests that Bona was really lurking M61 with only 0 total posts.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:51 am
by celaph
thamrick wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:51 pm
God I hate not having time. I just got caught up in thread. Didn't end up having time during N1 to do much rereading because we had to take our puppers to the vet
Getting strong townvibes from Bob McBob, jasnah, and celaph. Biggest scumreads so far are bona and foxcastle.
I've gotta head in to work soon and I'm working 12 hr shifts the next few days so my participation not likely to improve. Sorry. I free up next week so hopefully will be able to ISO more.
##VOTE Bonatogether
Can you explain your reads please?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:51 am
by celaph
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:50 pm
@Vecna
I'll be more positive when we have more data. All I have at the mo is a small pool of townreads.
This reminds me of my scum play.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:53 am
by celaph
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:37 am
I dont think ill get nightkilled on my birthday weekend.
its my birthday in under 2 hours!!!
Happy birthday!
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:54 am
by celaph
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:35 am
ghug wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:33 am
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:38 pm
bona's thoughts on the d1 voting
I'm in both of your groups.
Also killing Chaqa isn't scummy unless Jamie or jasnah (or maybe one of the early wagons) is town.
Yes. That is intentional.
Killing Chaqa was scummy regardless of Jamie and Jasnah's alignment, since it was "oh lets policy kill the lurker." Scum can easily hide on that wagon and not give any reason or be involved in any late-day shenanigans.
Who do you think was hiding on Chaqa's wagon?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:58 am
by celaph
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:15 am
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:26 am
Bonatogether (2) thamrick jasnah
Vecna (1) rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk (1) Macca573*
damo666 (1) Vecna
so jasnah and tham are voting an unccd PR
macca is endhammering an unccd PR
rdrivera is campvoting the only person actually game solving
and damo is only a 1 wagon
welcome to webdip where the phases take forever and the points dont matter
Tell me how is Vecna game solving? He pushed a brilliant wagon on Chaqa D1 and now is pushing a lazy wagon on Damo D2.
Why is Vecna town brainbomb?
Unless Vecna is really on-point with his reads, I don't expect scum rdr to target him after his long posts.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:01 pm
by Vecna
celaph wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:34 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:48 pm
PART TETRA
[snip]
I think it's unlikely that Bona and Vecna are scum together given this defense and how little others focused on it before Bona's claim.
@vecna, why did you choose to try and trap Bob in this way?
There were a bunch of people mentioning me and bunny in a single read doing the either/or. I questioned the others on it and felt like making a stronger point with bob because it sort of just followed the "general" sentiment and I wanted him to explain it.
I dont even really know why I did it in that form. It probably comes off as pretty cheesy and the odds of it ever working....
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:03 pm
by celaph
I'll reread things tomorrow morning with a greater focus on the wagons. But for now, I sleep. Currently townread Bona, ghug, Jamie, Jasnah, and rdr. Vecna, Macca, and bb are on the townier side though to a lesser degree.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:08 pm
by Vecna
celaph wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:41 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:41 pm
Also, now that both chaqa has flipped, and jamiet has become overwhelmingly likely town, I wanna crusade hard against bunny
If you didn't think Bob had responded to you, why did you drop the Bunny is Obvtown cover?
I guess crusading was higher on the list of fun stuff to talk about than silly gimmicks.
My feelings on Bunny are a lot stronger. The questioning of Bob was much more of a btw type of thing, due to him having the same weird bunny/vecna read that some others had.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 pm
by Vecna
celaph wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:48 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:16 pm
PART SIEDEM
Am I really going to have to give even more town-points to Ghug here?
Can you speak to why you're afraid to give ghug townpoints? I agree at least with the point that ghug's play merits townpoints, but you seem to be far more afraid by the prospect.
Whenever i townread ghug, he's scum and im getting punked.
Theres no winning, regardless of how I read him.
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 pm
by celaph
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:15 am
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:26 am
Bonatogether (2) thamrick jasnah
Vecna (1) rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk (1) Macca573*
damo666 (1) Vecna
so jasnah and tham are voting an unccd PR
macca is endhammering an unccd PR
rdrivera is campvoting the only person actually game solving
and damo is only a 1 wagon
welcome to webdip where the phases take forever and the points dont matter
Tell me how is Vecna game solving? He pushed a brilliant wagon on Chaqa D1 and now is pushing a lazy wagon on Damo D2.
Why is Vecna town brainbomb?
I lied. One more question before sleep. What do you think of the Damo wagon? I get the feeling that you disapprove of it. If that is the case then can you clarify why?
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 pm
by Vecna
celaph wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:58 am
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:15 am
brainbomb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:26 am
Bonatogether (2) thamrick jasnah
Vecna (1) rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk (1) Macca573*
damo666 (1) Vecna
so jasnah and tham are voting an unccd PR
macca is endhammering an unccd PR
rdrivera is campvoting the only person actually game solving
and damo is only a 1 wagon
welcome to webdip where the phases take forever and the points dont matter
Tell me how is Vecna game solving? He pushed a brilliant wagon on Chaqa D1 and now is pushing a lazy wagon on Damo D2.
Why is Vecna town brainbomb?
Unless Vecna is really on-point with his reads, I don't expect scum rdr to target him after his long posts.
The question is whether he's targeting me or brainbomb
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:14 pm
by Vecna
more diplomacy in a few hours. yay
Might get put on a board with HR again. booo
Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:21 pm
by jasnah
Vecna wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:14 pm
more diplomacy in a few hours. yay
Might get put on a board with HR again. booo
It always much better to go on a board with me. If you listened to me we wouldnt have to have Morgante world champion