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Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:58 pm
by Bonatogether
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:29 am
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:28 am
upon reread, not seeing a lot to townread worcej on this game (I don't know his meta). Voting explicitly for one townread (bo) to defend another townread (bona) at EOD1 is weird, and he doesn't push snowy especially hard given that the other two counterwagons are his townreads - this looks a little nonchalant for town. Specifically taking a lot of time to respond to sabi's "who would you save" question and then later calling the questions out as useless is inconsistent as well.
darg kinda just has been floating around posting things that are vaguely related to scumhunting so I feel okay voting for this slot until we get more engagement ##vote dargoyle
I tried to reread ghug's d1 but there's just so many words lmao
Great minds
Maybe snowy was right about DeathLlama also.
this post is beyond scummy
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:59 pm
by Bonatogether
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:26 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:17 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm
If I am wrong and you are town, you could try being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
Fun soundbite.
I am trying to be part of the solution.
I am looking for scum.
You are saying a lot of things which do not stack up from a rational thinking perspective.
This causes me to continue to suspect you.
Then who else do you think might be mafia besides me? Even if you were correct, there would be at least 2 others, which you have made no attempt to identify.
i hate this post
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:00 pm
by Bonatogether
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:15 pm
A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners
SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona
So, I guess I ought to be voting among Sabi, Jamie, Darg, ghug and Squigs.
Jamie I townread, Squigs I townlean and I guess there's no chance of a Sabi kill today. This leaves me with Darg and ghug. Interestingly they are voting each other (mutual bussing?).
Views on these 2 (darg and ghug) sought from Sabi, Bona, Jamie and Squigs please.
Thanks.
How do you read this list?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:03 pm
by dargorygel
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:50 pm
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:38 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:36 pm
You don't think you warrant some pressure at potential KILO after having not really played since you subbed in?
While I hope it doesn't END this way, sure. I'm not upset about the pressure. It usually happens. Some are able to read me, vecna, kgray, brain, and i THOUGHT you...
I also do not think that I 'haven't' played. I do not play like you, no.
You didn't commit to any reads, participate in EoD, or talk that much outside of some generic meta discussion N2. What conclusions are people supposed to be drawing from that?
I committed to bona, who was my strong read. I also gave reads without the official title... I spoke when I was around, and did take part in conversations when I had something beyond, 'that's a good point.' Such as how many scum are present. I wrote about damo (i've since changed my stated view.) I did talk about meta, because I was asked how I scumhunt. I didn't take part at EoD because i was not AROUND at EoD. fwiw, bona noticed that I was displaying towniness.
No, it is not your style of doing those things. It's not alignment indicative.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:03 pm
by Bonatogether
BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:48 pm
Good morning puppies!
Just reading and what not.
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:08 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:06 pm
Do you think bozo kills celaph? What would it say about who his teammates are?
idk that specific nk analysis, but imo, if they're killing lower-townread people, it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum
it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum
What does this mean Bona? Who is wrong in this context?
It means that scum can't kill more-townread people (higher up in the list of town) if they are, in fact, those more-townread people, so they would have to nk less-townread people (lower down on the list)
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:05 pm
by Bonatogether
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:56 pm
Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:
1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi
why?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:07 pm
by Bonatogether
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:20 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:15 pm
A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners
SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo Bona
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona
Tidied this up.
0 Sabi, Jamie
1 ghug, Squigs
2 darg, DL
3 Bozo
4 Bona
what does this mean?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:08 pm
by dargorygel
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:58 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:29 am
Great minds
Maybe snowy was right about DeathLlama also.
this post is beyond scummy
Which part? Why?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:09 pm
by dargorygel
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:05 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:56 pm
Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:
1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi
why?
I'll add my voice to this question... assuming you are asking, 'why is NOW the time?'
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:10 pm
by Bonatogether
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:14 pm
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:47 pm
Perhaps I have spent too much time watching games from outside, as Kouncil or co-GM. But i watch, and jump in when i have something worthwhile to say. I think I have had things to offer this game. No master plans, no elaborate tinfoil hats, no mathematical presentations... but that is normal for me.
How are we supposed to distinguish this from scum doing the same thing?
For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.
i scum you now
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:11 pm
by dargorygel
Squigs44 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:18 pm
Squigs44 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:46 pm
You are in my smaller pool of PoE, but my vote is based also on connections as well as how the wagons are currently sitting and where I'd like to see pressure
What are the connections between darg and damo/bozo?
It's more the lack of connections, I guess. Darg fits in a scumteam with damo/bozo (and several others) because he doesn't have any interactions that prevent him from being teammates with them
You do not think folk can (or do) bus? (I am not responding to your idea of my possible teammates... but rather about the premise of your list.
If you are simply grabbing at what info we DO have in a vanilla game, I get it. But it seems you are exaggerating the 'sureness' of it.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:11 pm
by Bonatogether
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:41 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:37 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:36 pm
You don't think you warrant some pressure at potential KILO after having not really played since you subbed in?
Who rescued bona? What would you expect town bozo to be doing here?
I do not really know who rescued... you, for one, had movements that seem suspect. I do not think the ones who announced s=they were saving to be scum. But Over the day, it appears to me that as bona grew, oppositions grew.
I also found his day 1 night 1 arguments to be un-bona. He has improved, imo.
what the hell does un-bona mean? it is definitionally bona
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:11 pm
by dargorygel
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:10 pm
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:14 pm
How are we supposed to distinguish this from scum doing the same thing?
For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.
i scum you now
Ah, ok... I retract that bit of evidence.
You thought I WAS townie though... why did you change your mind?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:12 pm
by Bonatogether
why are you just quoting this post? did you change something that i haven't noticed?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:13 pm
by DeathLlama8
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:12 pm
why are you just quoting this post? did you change something that i haven't noticed?
sabi's pronouns
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:13 pm
by dargorygel
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:10 pm
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:14 pm
How are we supposed to distinguish this from scum doing the same thing?
For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.
i scum you now
Let me rephrase... You saw my N's discussion as townie, and expressed joy in it. Ok, that's an overstatement. But I am defending my 'style,' and you thought at first that it was ok, right?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:14 pm
by Bonatogether
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:03 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:50 pm
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:38 pm
While I hope it doesn't END this way, sure. I'm not upset about the pressure. It usually happens. Some are able to read me, vecna, kgray, brain, and i THOUGHT you...
I also do not think that I 'haven't' played. I do not play like you, no.
You didn't commit to any reads, participate in EoD, or talk that much outside of some generic meta discussion N2. What conclusions are people supposed to be drawing from that?
I committed to bona, who was my strong read. I also gave reads without the official title... I spoke when I was around, and did take part in conversations when I had something beyond, 'that's a good point.' Such as how many scum are present. I wrote about damo (i've since changed my stated view.) I did talk about meta, because I was asked how I scumhunt. I didn't take part at EoD because i was not AROUND at EoD.
fwiw, bona noticed that I was displaying towniness.
No, it is not your style of doing those things. It's not alignment indicative.
i townleaned you after your series of posts on some players (idr who) but you've done nothing much else since.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:15 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Discussion point:
It might be MyLo right now.
Is there a case for voting No Kill?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:15 pm
by DeathLlama8
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:15 pm
Discussion point:
It might be MyLo right now.
Is there a case for voting No Kill?
wdym there's 9 players left?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:16 pm
by DeathLlama8
if there's four scum and we vote no kill we die
if there's three scum and we vote no kill we lose a MK for no reason