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actually I should probably read Durga tn because of the homicide pact

DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:20 pm

actually I should probably read Durga tn because of the homicide pact

Yeah good call

If you're mafia, who do you kill here and what could we infer from the death? Or is this exercise just a waste of time and pure WIFOM?

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:38 pm

If you're mafia, who do you kill here and what could we infer from the death? Or is this exercise just a waste of time and pure WIFOM?

It's the latter but I'd kill my lost child guess who I guess I shouldn't name

Durga wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:44 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:38 pm

If you're mafia, who do you kill here and what could we infer from the death? Or is this exercise just a waste of time and pure WIFOM?

It's the latter but I'd kill my lost child guess who I guess I shouldn't name

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Durga wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:44 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:38 pm

If you're mafia, who do you kill here and what could we infer from the death? Or is this exercise just a waste of time and pure WIFOM?

It's the latter but I'd kill my lost child guess who I guess I shouldn't name

Yeah I just wasted 20 minutes of my life trying to map out the KILO teams given who I assumed would get shot to maximize a mk on the last day before arguing with myself in a WIFOM esque manner in a textbox. Now I have a headache. God I love mafia. What an addictive drug.

At least I had fun mocking up scenarios given they shot one of my strongest town clears, and a scum read, but not the lost sibling, two of of my strongest town clears, but not the lost sibling and then both scenarios again except with the lost sibling being hit. Then I went through those scenarios and applied my guess of who the lost child as an overlay to sorta see what the rough odds of that would look like before then trying to figure out what scum would do given that information and realized I was lost in WIFOM hell. Should hang realized if I am asking if I am about to engage in WIFOM, I am certainly about to engage in WIFOM.

Awfully quiet...if we're not going to talk much can we all meager Eden and let him know that he should advance the turn?

Rip rdr.

I’m playing bridge with my grandmother now. Will reread later tonight.

i have no idea when night ends so quick notes from the Rdrivera2005 Memorial Reread of Durga (also idk if this is actually a useful way to read people but at least it's info)

• d1 fixation on uber over lfischl is inconsistent and could be viewed as an easy way to protect kakarroto without direct association by wagoning lfischl
• if she was tryna do that then the direct defense of kakarroto later in EOD is probably not good scum play, but she at least did it in a way that's easy to distance from later?
• n1 feels pretty good about jamiet being town, then immediately calls him out for weird posts
• "townslips" feel kinda weird but going after vecna for a fake scumslip and then immediately retracting it feels genuine

• d2 said non-hex PRs should claim then hated me claiming sleepwalker?
• stuck her neck out for kakarroto d2 post-damo claim in a way that could only draw attention without actually affecting the outcome
• setup confusion d2 over the lost child feels genuine

• consistently pushing jamiet starting d3
• the interaction with tfb d3 is weird but vaguely TvT?
• consistently reading bunny as town doesn't strike me as necessary if she's scum given how easy "yeah i don't vibe with bunny ##vote" is in the current game state
• weirdly confident on rdr being the last scum yesterday given that she still has an unresolved scumread on TFB
• stop posting emojis jesus christ
• felt more comfortable after settling on rdr than I would've hoped today. where did the TFB read go?

tl;dr d1 bad, d2 good, d3 good, d4 meh. It's hard to fake vibes when you're posting that consistently and a lot of this feels genuine so I'm still slight town here / would prefer other targets tomorrow, but behaviorally d1 and yesterday are cause for concern

still feeling sabi tomorrow but maybe we look at this again at KILO

Not bad.

I am happy to explain my thought process for anything

sure
1. can you walk me through the progression of your views on the two main lurkers d1 (lfischl v uber)?
2. where did your TFB scumread go? In hindsight you stopping that push to go after an easy town kill who was also the only person suspecting you isn't great


3 but less important. why was me claiming sleepwalker bad to you at the time?

i wonder how long it took for mafia to realize that I'm not actually good at this game

DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:08 am

sure
1. can you walk me through the progression of your views on the two main lurkers d1 (lfischl v uber)?
2. where did your TFB scumread go? In hindsight you stopping that push to go after an easy town kill who was also the only person suspecting you isn't great


3 but less important. why was me claiming sleepwalker bad to you at the time?

1. i don't like uber because he called me a bitch like a few days before this game started so i wanted him dead but ultimately didn't care if he was getting replaced. i didn't want to seriously think about the game d1 so i was fine with whatever lurker

2. okay i've actually explained this a fair number of times but why tf would i push tfb when everyone is convinced he was soft cleared by ghug and we have plenty of time to sort it out - as for do i scum read him? i still think he's done hella sus things like weirdly protect doom and act just kinda weird on d1 but i don't know at this point.

want to also address this "easy town kill" nonsense. easy town kill is if i sat back and let y'all kill bunny/sabi. i scum read rdr on d3 as well so how is me pushing that "easy town kill" - please, in fact, i distinctly recall saying we should get rdr instead of jamie like 3 minutes before EoD and you were like why didn't you say this earlier. just because rdr has been shading me all game doesn't mean my vote was OMGUS/easy - that's just silly and looking at each day in a vacuum.

3. hmmmm i don't know but now that i know sleepwalker doesn't even know they are sleepwalker it makes no sense. i'm sure i had a reason why i hated it. was i mad bc you didn't remember me and i didn't want you to be a clear? maybe.

Durga wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:20 am

want to also address this "easy town kill" nonsense. easy town kill is if i sat back and let y'all kill bunny/sabi. i scum read rdr on d3 as well so how is me pushing that "easy town kill" - please, in fact, i distinctly recall saying we should get rdr instead of jamie like 3 minutes before EoD and you were like why didn't you say this earlier. just because rdr has been shading me all game doesn't mean my vote was OMGUS/easy - that's just silly and looking at each day in a vacuum.

Maybe "easy town kill" was a bad choice of words, and you definitely get credit for consistently townreading bunny/sabi and voluntarily winnowing the POE pool. But I don't see how rdr was a particularly hard kill today to get people on board with given how many people were willing to vote him, and he was like the only person giving you any pressure

still think ur probably town though
sorry rdr

are you worried that if TFB is scum, he can probably pick one/both of us off at night and then win easily?

DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:44 am

Durga wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:20 am

want to also address this "easy town kill" nonsense. easy town kill is if i sat back and let y'all kill bunny/sabi. i scum read rdr on d3 as well so how is me pushing that "easy town kill" - please, in fact, i distinctly recall saying we should get rdr instead of jamie like 3 minutes before EoD and you were like why didn't you say this earlier. just because rdr has been shading me all game doesn't mean my vote was OMGUS/easy - that's just silly and looking at each day in a vacuum.

Maybe "easy town kill" was a bad choice of words, and you definitely get credit for consistently townreading bunny/sabi and voluntarily winnowing the POE pool. But I don't see how rdr was a particularly hard kill today to get people on board with given how many people were willing to vote him, and he was like the only person giving you any pressure

what kind of hard kill are you looking for and why don't you manifest that energy for yourself

DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:49 am

are you worried that if TFB is scum, he can probably pick one/both of us off at night and then win easily?

hmmm i think he can pick us off but i don't think he can ever easily win at an end game

Durga wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:49 am

DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:49 am

are you worried that if TFB is scum, he can probably pick one/both of us off at night and then win easily?

hmmm i think he can pick us off but i don't think he can ever easily win at an end game

Not sure if I should be offended or not...