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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:43 am
by Doom427
Well shit, huh.

I thought I'd have a lot more posts to get back to, and also a lot less actual info to process.

Guess it's good it's that's way though?

I do have a quick mechanics question: I thought oracle gets multiple reads that all activate on death? Is it only one? Cause that changes things quite a bit.

Second, will we know for sure something is a mafia kill as opposed to JOAT?

For night time, we should just send out vibes and maybe small things about what we'd like power rules to do? Or is mostly just relax before we stress out about next day actions? Already saw people say we should keep talk about most topics away.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:50 am
by BunnyGo
Doom427 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:43 am
Well shit, huh.

I thought I'd have a lot more posts to get back to, and also a lot less actual info to process.

Guess it's good it's that's way though?

I do have a quick mechanics question: I thought oracle gets multiple reads that all activate on death? Is it only one? Cause that changes things quite a bit.

Second, will we know for sure something is a mafia kill as opposed to JOAT?

For night time, we should just send out vibes and maybe small things about what we'd like power rules to do? Or is mostly just relax before we stress out about next day actions? Already saw people say we should keep talk about most topics away.
I think Oracle gets only 1 read (they can change what that is until it activates).

I don't think our JOAT has a kill, so all night deaths are caused by mafia.

Mostly relax, but don't really worry too much about the RPS of it all. If you have something you think is really important, mention it closer to the end of the night.

Time to get back to my manhattan.



Oooh, should I bring back the Drunk Bunny persona?


no...I think we should get EMC to draw him going out to pasture somewhere. A pasture full of Vespers.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:19 am
by worcej
ghug wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:10 am
worcej wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:56 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:17 pm


How come you didn't leave us with your final reads since you were close to being the kill?
Cell phone posting issues when under time constraints.

My main reads have been spread in throughout my posts, but I am not liking snowy primarily because he had quite a few people he would be willing to flip D1 and showed no restraint in pushing those people.

I am kinda meh on Jaime so far, mostly because of lack of energy or contributing and is instead coming off as catching up too much compared to normal.

I’ve beat a dead horse on Durga - My first gut is to town her but when I write that I struggle to see any real town!Durga tells. She also falls into the snowy camp where she had far to many people willing to kill on D1 than I feel comfortable processing.

I said my short piece on Sabi. In general, I am getting the Flavius vibe from Sabi - playing stupid and acting it up to hide they are scum.

Otherwise, I currently hard-town Vecna, Eden, Bunny, Doom, and you kgray. Chaqa would be on this list, but like jasnah, I am now a little pissy at the anti-town behavior to issue ‘potential’ fake claims just to live. We’ve seen this blow up in people’s face far too often.
Why is showing no restraint scummy?
I don't see logical progressions between the pushes and it strikes me as they don't care as long as any of those players die.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:21 am
by BunnyGo
Hi Bona. How's homework?

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:32 am
by President Eden
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:21 am
Hi Bona. How's homework?
He's learning how to short the market for Alloys

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:35 am
by snowy801
President Eden wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:37 am
Stellaris fam, what jobs are considered "complex" such that Droids cannot work them? TIA.
For basic robots, only mining and agriculture jobs are simple enough (for whatever reason technician is not a valid robot job)
Once droids are researched, any non-ruler jobs are enabled depending on your AI worker rights.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:57 am
by BunnyGo
First analysis of a pair of players: Bona-Durga

They've impressively voted for a combined 11 people (Bona voted 4 and Durga 8, and both voted Chaq and different times).

As for their interactions. Despite talking around each other and in parallel with each other, they manage to address each other exactly once. (for any new players, or old players who don't know go to https://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/search and type in Bona* the star gets you anything starting with Bona and search for words Durg*, then swap).

Bona only mentions Durga when he's quoting someone else about her, or including her in a list of everyone.

He cheerfully asks kgray why she's including durga on her list of possible scum.

When ghug votes Durga, his response is "So scummy it can't be scum"

And that's basically it (he references her interactions with others a couple times and always in ways that subtly compliment her, but never really address her or have her as the main topic).

Swapping now Durga mentions Bona a total of 4 times all day including in quotes. First to say on page 6 that there are no actual game reasons to kill Bona. OF COURSE NOT...it was page 6!
Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:24 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:23 pm
Who is opposed to killing Bona?
Me. Why would we kill Bona for actual game reasons?
Then she told Bona he was being a bit much:
Durga wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:11 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:09 am
I couldn't find the post of ghug's but it was something like 'town bona is just weird and gets killed for it, scum bona imitates that in an over-the-top way but it works cause it's counterintuitive'
tbh you're feeling a little over the top
He wasn't addressing her, and she immediately makes a second post before anyone else to change the subject.

Then later Durga/snowy/kgray are talking about bozo.
Durga wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:55 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:54 pm
Durga wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:52 pm


Has he done anything but talk about mechanics?
He was suspicious about me/Sabi/bona knowing each other, which is pretty standard. And he suggested I was part of scum theater, which is also something town!bozo does basically every game I'm in.
Oh I remember that now. All of that felt really forced to me, and hyper focused on you, which is also weird.
And that's about it.

Conclusions? I'm just surprised that the two of them managed to both be fairly active, and basically the same times, and engage with lots of players--except each other.

Time for sleep (my date is complaining about the typing waking her).

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:59 am
by BunnyGo
President Eden wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:32 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:21 am
Hi Bona. How's homework?
He's learning how to short the market for Alloys
Alloys? I've been looking into how to index front run. I would have thought it'd be all arbitraged by now, but action this last month suggests otherwise.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:24 am
by Bonatogether
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:21 am
Hi Bona. How's homework?
It's a friday night so i'm playing stellaris with Eden. Snowy also showed up.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:32 am
by Bonatogether
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:57 am
First analysis of a pair of players: Bona-Durga

<snip>

Conclusions? I'm just surprised that the two of them managed to both be fairly active, and basically the same times, and engage with lots of players--except each other.

Time for sleep (my date is complaining about the typing waking her).
What conclusions do you draw from it? You did the analysis.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:02 am
by ghug
I go get drunk end there are literally zero new posts.

I tested negative for the coronavirus today, so I am pleased.

We killed jasnah, so I am displeased.

Good morning, Europeans.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:05 am
by ghug
Hi Vecna I see you

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:08 am
by Durga
ghug wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:05 am
Hi Vecna I see you
Go to bed

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 am
by snowy801
Durga wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:08 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:05 am
Hi Vecna I see you
Go to bed
No

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 am
by Durga
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:24 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:21 am
Hi Bona. How's homework?
It's a friday night so i'm playing stellaris with Eden. Snowy also showed up.
Wow. Fomo

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:12 am
by snowy801
Durga wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:24 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:21 am
Hi Bona. How's homework?
It's a friday night so i'm playing stellaris with Eden. Snowy also showed up.
Wow. Fomo
It was lame. These guys play without a single excel sheet or having all the event text files open like amateurs

What are you even doing with your life if you're not metaslaving strategy games

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:14 am
by Durga
Yeah but how dare people bond without me there

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:17 am
by snowy801
The audacity

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 am
by ghug
Durga wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:08 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:05 am
Hi Vecna I see you
Go to bed
I'm not up at 3 AM.

Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:27 am
by ghug
ghug wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 am
Durga wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:08 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:05 am
Hi Vecna I see you
Go to bed
I'm not up at 3 AM.
"Hi ghug. I'm happy you don't have the coronavirus. You're clearly town but I might not be." -Nice Durga