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Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:09 pm
by Squigs44
I'm kinda glued to the idea that one of Bona or Bozo is scum cause if they're both town that means all the major wagons are town and I don't want to believe that town is that bad.

On the flip side, I think ghug and Bona are both correct in the idea that scum are playing well and feel safe given what's happened so far, so I gotta unglue myself to that idea

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pm
by ghug
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:06 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:03 pm


scumteam is confident in their position, celaph wasn't especially townread
Do you think bozo kills celaph? What would it say about who his teammates are?
idk that specific nk analysis, but imo, if they're killing lower-townread people, it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum
Which points to Sabi primarily, I suppose, though I could see mafia motivations in keeping them alive and really don't think they're scum. Who else?

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm
by Bonatogether
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:07 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:06 pm
what do yall think of bozo using almost exactly the same line as he did as scum?
Not that weird. He has an odd but fairly consistent manner of speaking.
:cry:

is there a town!bozo dk where i can look?

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm
by ghug
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:07 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:06 pm
what do yall think of bozo using almost exactly the same line as he did as scum?
Not that weird. He has an odd but fairly consistent manner of speaking.
:cry:

is there a town!bozo dk where i can look?
Go find the one where he fakeclaimed cop and got the real cop killed.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:12 pm
by Bonatogether
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:06 pm


Do you think bozo kills celaph? What would it say about who his teammates are?
idk that specific nk analysis, but imo, if they're killing lower-townread people, it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum
Which points to Sabi primarily, I suppose, though I could see mafia motivations in keeping them alive and really don't think they're scum. Who else?
ghug
sabi
dl
sqoogs (kinda)
darg (kinda)
jamie (kinda)

keeping things broad because nk analysis is shifty

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:12 pm
by Bonatogether
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:07 pm


Not that weird. He has an odd but fairly consistent manner of speaking.
:cry:

is there a town!bozo dk where i can look?
Go find the one where he fakeclaimed cop and got the real cop killed.
i have no idea which one that is

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:14 pm
by ghug
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:12 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:11 pm


:cry:

is there a town!bozo dk where i can look?
Go find the one where he fakeclaimed cop and got the real cop killed.
i have no idea which one that is
M1014 or thereabouts? Definitely a mini. Durga won.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:17 pm
by Squigs44
According to Bozo, we should be analyzing NKs based off of who they were scumreading. Celaph scumread and was voting Bozo day 2 (until last second to tie break). Foodcoats also scumread Bozo (along with myself).

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:17 pm
by ghug
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:12 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:08 pm


idk that specific nk analysis, but imo, if they're killing lower-townread people, it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum
Which points to Sabi primarily, I suppose, though I could see mafia motivations in keeping them alive and really don't think they're scum. Who else?
ghug
sabi
dl
sqoogs (kinda)
darg (kinda)
jamie (kinda)

keeping things broad because nk analysis is shifty
It felt like just about everyone in the game null read me and wanted to reread me last night. Agreed on DL/Squiggles/darg though.

Celaph seemed to be doubting bozo's scumminess around EoD, so I suspect either bozo's going to be bussed today or bozo is a miskill target today.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:19 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Ghug is very relaxed and is not drawing me into silly circular arguments about tiny details.

That is usually what happens when Ghug and I are both town.

Hmm.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:20 pm
by Squigs44
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:17 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:12 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pm


Which points to Sabi primarily, I suppose, though I could see mafia motivations in keeping them alive and really don't think they're scum. Who else?
ghug
sabi
dl
sqoogs (kinda)
darg (kinda)
jamie (kinda)

keeping things broad because nk analysis is shifty
It felt like just about everyone in the game null read me and wanted to reread me last night. Agreed on DL/Squiggles/darg though.

Celaph seemed to be doubting bozo's scumminess around EoD, so I suspect either bozo's going to be bussed today or bozo is a miskill target today.
Which post did Celaph doubt Bozos scumminess?

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 pm
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:19 pm
Ghug is very relaxed and is not drawing me into silly circular arguments about tiny details.

That is usually what happens when Ghug and I are both town.

Hmm.
Funny, I've been thinking the same thing about you.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 pm
by ghug
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:20 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:17 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:12 pm


ghug
sabi
dl
sqoogs (kinda)
darg (kinda)
jamie (kinda)

keeping things broad because nk analysis is shifty
It felt like just about everyone in the game null read me and wanted to reread me last night. Agreed on DL/Squiggles/darg though.

Celaph seemed to be doubting bozo's scumminess around EoD, so I suspect either bozo's going to be bussed today or bozo is a miskill target today.
Which post did Celaph doubt Bozos scumminess?
He concluded the EoD was SvS or TvT.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:35 pm
by Jamiet99uk
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:19 pm
Ghug is very relaxed and is not drawing me into silly circular arguments about tiny details.

That is usually what happens when Ghug and I are both town.

Hmm.
Funny, I've been thinking the same thing about you.
Shall we vote for each other?

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:48 pm
by Squigs44
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:20 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:17 pm


It felt like just about everyone in the game null read me and wanted to reread me last night. Agreed on DL/Squiggles/darg though.

Celaph seemed to be doubting bozo's scumminess around EoD, so I suspect either bozo's going to be bussed today or bozo is a miskill target today.
Which post did Celaph doubt Bozos scumminess?
He concluded the EoD was SvS or TvT.
That was before Snowy flipped. He wasn't doubting his read on Bozo he was making observations about the game state. After the flip he probably would have drawn this conclusion given his posts, but Celaph never posted during the night, so it's guesswork.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:53 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Snowy was sure Ghug was scum.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:56 pm
by Squigs44
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:53 pm
Snowy was sure Ghug was scum.
Snowy also had a scum read on DL until pressed for a case. Not saying we shouldn't pay attention to Snowys reads/posts, but I'd be careful blindly following a dead players posts.
Do you understand and agree with the points Snowy raised about ghug? Of so, what is the most compelling point Snowy raised?

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:00 am
by Jamiet99uk
I need to re-read things.

I am not currently sure.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:10 am
by Squigs44
Just noticed this when starting my damo reread:

The first time I point out not liking this post, damo agrees:
damo666 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:16 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:11 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:08 pm
So we can't afford anymore miskills.

We, including myself in this, suck as town.

I'm sorry snowy but you were a pretty bad town and selfish strategy in day one cost the town the game. Never do that strategy aagain. Like what were you thinking there???
I dont like this post
Agree
But in my tldr after my Sabi/Bozo tinfoil, damo says he doesn't see what's wrong with the post:
damo666 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:06 am
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:44 am
Tl;dr for those who don't like reading:
Sabi made two posts (included below) that feel like fake scum theater. This, plus Sabi making a couple posts defending Bozo early on, then a sudden change to scumreading Bozo (but not a top scumread) suggest a possible Sabi/Bozo scumpair.
BesharamSabi wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:02 pm
Fine fine fine, time to decide between bozo or snowy.

This is so hard.

Ugh I hate this.

Whatever I will do the vote thingy.

##VOTE snowy
BesharamSabi wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:08 pm
So we can't afford anymore miskills.

We, including myself in this, suck as town.

I'm sorry snowy but you were a pretty bad town and selfish strategy in day one cost the town the game. Never do that strategy aagain. Like what were you thinking there???
I don't like the first post but I don't see what's so wrong about the second.

Leaning tin foil but a Sabi/bozo scum pair not impossible. I also think either could be scum without the other.
I dont think this contradiction is alignment indicative, but its weird that damo agrees with me the first time and disagrees the second when it's the same thing both times.

Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:13 am
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:35 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:19 pm
Ghug is very relaxed and is not drawing me into silly circular arguments about tiny details.

That is usually what happens when Ghug and I are both town.

Hmm.
Funny, I've been thinking the same thing about you.
Shall we vote for each other?
Haven't decided yet.