Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:41 pm
Maybe the Chaqa coaching JBH idea is right after all. Explains the lack of a shot n3.
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How does Chaqa being scum preclude rdr being scum?worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:43 pmI've said it several times, but Chaqa makes the absolute most sense to be scum. It fits the 3 gun theory, which is the most logical scum setup, and is in the realm of his game to be so blatant about having a gun as a scum.
From there, assuming my read on Chaqa is right and we don't lose now, I am inclined to look in ghug, damo, and celaph as the group that contains his teammates.
If Chaqa is scum, I struggle to see a world where rdr is scum. JBH is still my most confident town read well above anyone else.
EMC is on his lone little island of smut writing because he could easily be town or scum with how he's played this game out...
Would rdr bus him and shade him that much as scum? I haven't seen him multi-phase bus anyone like this before (as far as I can recall).ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:44 pmHow does Chaqa being scum preclude rdr being scum?worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:43 pmI've said it several times, but Chaqa makes the absolute most sense to be scum. It fits the 3 gun theory, which is the most logical scum setup, and is in the realm of his game to be so blatant about having a gun as a scum.
From there, assuming my read on Chaqa is right and we don't lose now, I am inclined to look in ghug, damo, and celaph as the group that contains his teammates.
If Chaqa is scum, I struggle to see a world where rdr is scum. JBH is still my most confident town read well above anyone else.
EMC is on his lone little island of smut writing because he could easily be town or scum with how he's played this game out...
It's not that multi phase. He decided to scumread Chaqa right about this time D3.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:47 pmWould rdr bus him and shade him that much as scum? I haven't seen him multi-phase bus anyone like this before (as far as I can recall).ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:44 pmHow does Chaqa being scum preclude rdr being scum?worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:43 pmI've said it several times, but Chaqa makes the absolute most sense to be scum. It fits the 3 gun theory, which is the most logical scum setup, and is in the realm of his game to be so blatant about having a gun as a scum.
From there, assuming my read on Chaqa is right and we don't lose now, I am inclined to look in ghug, damo, and celaph as the group that contains his teammates.
If Chaqa is scum, I struggle to see a world where rdr is scum. JBH is still my most confident town read well above anyone else.
EMC is on his lone little island of smut writing because he could easily be town or scum with how he's played this game out...
I also follow his reasoning for the case against Chaqa and agree with it.
I cannot put words in RDR's mouth, but for me it was because I thought Chaqa positioned himself earlier in the phase to easily move to HB with low effort and did his move in a way sleazy way.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:55 pmIt's not that multi phase. He decided to scumread Chaqa right about this time D3.
And while I scumread Chaqa, I still don't get y'all's argument. I'm more in the "he hasn't done much that's townie and it's hard to imagine a team without him" camp. Can you explain to me what about the HB vote was so bad that it warranted rd suddenly scumreading him out of thin air?
Only that he is not sheeping Xorxes who scumread Chaqa. He is sheeping you.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:39 pmDamo.
Rd is not trying. You kind of of are, I suppose, but not very hard. JBH has announced that he's giving up and sheeping xorxes.
We consistently see low-effort Chaqa as town too, though.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:09 pmAnd I've seen way too many people pull this low effort BS as scum.
Since Durga doesn't play anymore, she is the queen of this BS - anytime Durga does low effort playing, she was scum. We've also seen Chaqa do the same *UNLESS* he was in a position to take the crown for his team, then he pulls off some high level mastery.
True, that's very weird, and he didn't respond when I asked about it.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:10 pmOnly that he is not sheeping Xorxes who scumread Chaqa. He is sheeping you.
Worcej said it better then me, but that Chaqa entrance and vote on HB isn't a town that was reading the thread and suddenly realize HB was scummier then the other wagons. He was coasting and let a vague scum read on HB sooner to justify the change. Just compare this with any of the recent Chaqa games and you will see that he didn't do this as town.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:08 pmI cannot put words in RDR's mouth, but for me it was because I thought Chaqa positioned himself earlier in the phase to easily move to HB with low effort and did his move in a way sleazy way.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:55 pmIt's not that multi phase. He decided to scumread Chaqa right about this time D3.
And while I scumread Chaqa, I still don't get y'all's argument. I'm more in the "he hasn't done much that's townie and it's hard to imagine a team without him" camp. Can you explain to me what about the HB vote was so bad that it warranted rd suddenly scumreading him out of thin air?
His reasoning for either HB or JBH at the time was weak. His example today about how he explained his HB vote showed the 'soft' conviction he had in the case to begin with.
It was all just low effort.
Yes, but I also have spoken numerously about the 3 gun scum team. That completes my scum read of Chaqa.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:15 pmWe consistently see low-effort Chaqa as town too, though.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:09 pmAnd I've seen way too many people pull this low effort BS as scum.
Since Durga doesn't play anymore, she is the queen of this BS - anytime Durga does low effort playing, she was scum. We've also seen Chaqa do the same *UNLESS* he was in a position to take the crown for his team, then he pulls off some high level mastery.
It's not low effort only. If we are killing low effort the wagons would be emc and Celaph.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:15 pmWe consistently see low-effort Chaqa as town too, though.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:09 pmAnd I've seen way too many people pull this low effort BS as scum.
Since Durga doesn't play anymore, she is the queen of this BS - anytime Durga does low effort playing, she was scum. We've also seen Chaqa do the same *UNLESS* he was in a position to take the crown for his team, then he pulls off some high level mastery.
Right, and the fact that you still don't understand the benefit to withholding either means you're scum with Chaqa and didn't have the opportunity to withhold, or you're town.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:17 pmYes, but I also have spoken numerously about the 3 gun scum team. That completes my scum read of Chaqa.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:15 pmWe consistently see low-effort Chaqa as town too, though.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:09 pmAnd I've seen way too many people pull this low effort BS as scum.
Since Durga doesn't play anymore, she is the queen of this BS - anytime Durga does low effort playing, she was scum. We've also seen Chaqa do the same *UNLESS* he was in a position to take the crown for his team, then he pulls off some high level mastery.
It's not vague. I've explained why I think he's scum. It's not why you think he's scum, and I'm questioning you on it.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:20 pmIt's not low effort only. If we are killing low effort the wagons would be emc and Celaph.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:15 pmWe consistently see low-effort Chaqa as town too, though.worcej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:09 pmAnd I've seen way too many people pull this low effort BS as scum.
Since Durga doesn't play anymore, she is the queen of this BS - anytime Durga does low effort playing, she was scum. We've also seen Chaqa do the same *UNLESS* he was in a position to take the crown for his team, then he pulls off some high level mastery.
And how on Earth you are not defending Chaqa? You are actively trying to dismiss any arguments against him while also keeping a vague scumread on him.
Looked back on his town and scum games, and overall: