Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:47 pm
No. I'm just saying we shouldn't read into Chaqa not dying if he is town because no scum in their right mind kills him there.
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No. I'm just saying we shouldn't read into Chaqa not dying if he is town because no scum in their right mind kills him there.
if I were scum, and I had a free shot to use, why would I shoot JBH instead of you, Damo, rivera, worcej, celaph, EMC... basically anyone.ghug wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:45 pmI read it as him asking about the whole series of night moves. You and Jamie were both widely townread and known to be exposed N2. Who's shooting JBH there?Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:53 pmHolding a shot last night to frame me.
Damo asked me to try to explain who precisely would do that, but now that I think about it, you're right that it isn't that risky at all. So I'm not sure what damo needs to be convinced of.
Makes me second guess clearing him of it a little
Agree. If Chaqa is town the right move last night for scum is to let him alive as it's the easiest misskill.
Your entire theory is based off of one vote, of me moving to vote for someone who I had been scumreading, and saying it isn't organic??rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:14 pmAgree. If Chaqa is town the right move last night for scum is to let him alive as it's the easiest misskill.
The key question here is why scum shot JBH on N2. I can see two answers, the first is they didn't shot and JBH is scum and claimed to try to cover for Chaqa shot. The second is they want to frame Jamiet or Damo or just to spread chaos, which is a weak reasoning but possible.
Anyway, there is no mechanical clear or guilty at this point. So, we need to look who are playing a scum game and Chaqa is my top choice. That change to HB is not organic and not town motivated.
Yeah, rd feels very inauthentic here.Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:16 pmYour entire theory is based off of one vote, of me moving to vote for someone who I had been scumreading, and saying it isn't organic??rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:14 pmAgree. If Chaqa is town the right move last night for scum is to let him alive as it's the easiest misskill.
The key question here is why scum shot JBH on N2. I can see two answers, the first is they didn't shot and JBH is scum and claimed to try to cover for Chaqa shot. The second is they want to frame Jamiet or Damo or just to spread chaos, which is a weak reasoning but possible.
Anyway, there is no mechanical clear or guilty at this point. So, we need to look who are playing a scum game and Chaqa is my top choice. That change to HB is not organic and not town motivated.
I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense.
You were scumreading him but never justified it or even back it up with a vote. Then when HB was having his most towny moment you put him on the lead with a bullshit reasoning that involves a scumread on me (that you also never justified) and not winning of JBH is scum. It's a scum 101 move and add this to your overall play, the out of the blue choice to shot Jamiet and it's Chaqa scum play.Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:16 pmYour entire theory is based off of one vote, of me moving to vote for someone who I had been scumreading, and saying it isn't organic??rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:14 pmAgree. If Chaqa is town the right move last night for scum is to let him alive as it's the easiest misskill.
The key question here is why scum shot JBH on N2. I can see two answers, the first is they didn't shot and JBH is scum and claimed to try to cover for Chaqa shot. The second is they want to frame Jamiet or Damo or just to spread chaos, which is a weak reasoning but possible.
Anyway, there is no mechanical clear or guilty at this point. So, we need to look who are playing a scum game and Chaqa is my top choice. That change to HB is not organic and not town motivated.
I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense.
I'm not missing the obvious solution. I was showing how the scenario where Chaqa's town doesn't make sense to me.damo666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:41 pm@ghug if Chaqa is town then JBH is town so if we are both town then there are only 4 people who can be scum {rdr, worcej, emc, braincel}. Now you say you cannot envisage an rdr worcej scumpair and I cannot envisage an emc worcej scumpair so it's impossible. The obvious solution [what you're missing] is Chaqa is scum.
So from mpov one of Chaqa or ghug must be scum. I think it is more likely to be Chaqa.
agree. I should have been last choice to shoot.Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:08 pmif I were scum, and I had a free shot to use, why would I shoot JBH instead of you, Damo, rivera, worcej, celaph, EMC... basically anyone.ghug wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:45 pmI read it as him asking about the whole series of night moves. You and Jamie were both widely townread and known to be exposed N2. Who's shooting JBH there?Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:53 pm
Holding a shot last night to frame me.
Damo asked me to try to explain who precisely would do that, but now that I think about it, you're right that it isn't that risky at all. So I'm not sure what damo needs to be convinced of.
Makes me second guess clearing him of it a little
No offense to him, but you guys know I love to take out "good" players with nightkills.
The 'missing' was a reference to your post questionning Chaqa, that's all.ghug wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:48 pmI'm not missing the obvious solution. I was showing how the scenario where Chaqa's town doesn't make sense to me.damo666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:41 pm@ghug if Chaqa is town then JBH is town so if we are both town then there are only 4 people who can be scum {rdr, worcej, emc, braincel}. Now you say you cannot envisage an rdr worcej scumpair and I cannot envisage an emc worcej scumpair so it's impossible. The obvious solution [what you're missing] is Chaqa is scum.
So from mpov one of Chaqa or ghug must be scum. I think it is more likely to be Chaqa.
Why do you think rd is town? He feels really fake right now.
Right, I know which post you were referencing. I'm just saying you missed the entire point of the post.damo666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:27 pmThe 'missing' was a reference to your post questionning Chaqa, that's all.ghug wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:48 pmI'm not missing the obvious solution. I was showing how the scenario where Chaqa's town doesn't make sense to me.damo666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:41 pm@ghug if Chaqa is town then JBH is town so if we are both town then there are only 4 people who can be scum {rdr, worcej, emc, braincel}. Now you say you cannot envisage an rdr worcej scumpair and I cannot envisage an emc worcej scumpair so it's impossible. The obvious solution [what you're missing] is Chaqa is scum.
So from mpov one of Chaqa or ghug must be scum. I think it is more likely to be Chaqa.
Why do you think rd is town? He feels really fake right now.
Anyway, I'm particularly townreading rdr but he's not in my top 3. Unless you particularly think rdr is scum without Chaqa it doesn't really matter for today. He might be bussing but how does scum rdr work without Chaqa? {rdr, emc, braincel} just aboout I guess. I'd much rather just kill Chaqa and woryy about it tomorrow (if there is one).
Yeah ok. It's ending for me lol.