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Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:49 pm
by damo666
Squigs44 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:44 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:36 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:34 pm
Don't follow. Why a false read?
My point is observer will observe doctor.
So if rhk is doc, he will be observed and confirmed.
If rhk is observer, then we won't have an observer going to Squigs and not seeing rhk.
If they use the driver on you, both PR's end up on someone else and observer can still see who doc is.
Either way observer can confirm whether rhk is pr or not.
Oh, had to think about this for a second. I think I get it now.
Squigs, you taking the piss? I say 'a couple of hours' and you say 'a second'.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:56 pm
by Durga
Squigs44 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:48 pm
Driver is so much more powerful late game. Using driver N1 or N2 when you risk observer seeing you is probably not optimal scum play. I think they held it N1 when killing Tom. The Xorxes kill was probably driven, and maybe the Vecna one. I think they have at least one left, which they most certainly will use tonight if it is DemonRHK as driver.
Naw, no reason to suspect Tom Bomb wasn't a driver kill either. Especially if rhk was a wagon and had a bunch of pressure. Then he's probably been driving and doing the killings.
What do you think about rhk claiming his specific role?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm
by Durga
Also who even cares if driver has another go. If you're gonna die, you're gonna die. Observer and doc will still get driven onto the same person. They can still confirm each other, right? How does this work?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm
by Durga
If observer is driven onto someone else... I need to check the order
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:01 pm
by Durga
##all gm - if observer observes someone who the driver then drives, what does the observer see
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:05 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:01 pm
##all gm - if observer observes someone who the driver then drives, what does the observer see
I think it's like this:
If observer checks out PERSON A
And Driver Drives (PERSON A, PERSON B)
Observer would see (everyone who visited PERSON B, everyone who PERSON B visited, and the driver would be included in everyone who visited PERSON B). In this scenario, Observer would not know for sure that they were seeing visits to and from PERSON A or PERSON B.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:08 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:05 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:01 pm
##all gm - if observer observes someone who the driver then drives, what does the observer see
I think it's like this:
If observer checks out PERSON A
And Driver Drives (PERSON A, PERSON B)
Observer would see (everyone who visited PERSON B, everyone who PERSON B visited, and the driver would be included in everyone who visited PERSON B). In this scenario, Observer would not know for sure that they were seeing visits to and from PERSON A or PERSON B.
##CALL GM -- is that right?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:10 pm
by Durga
Just know that if you've truly outed a PR because of your stupid obsession over his one null post I will make sure you flip next Balkins
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:18 pm
by DemonRHK
I will not reveal tonight. If I die you’ll see it on flip, if I live to tomorrow, I’ll explain more.
I’m leaving the wifom strong for mafia. Am I a doc with a selfsave? Am I the obs with faith in my doc?
Come find out you fucks.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:21 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:10 pm
Just know that if you've truly outed a PR because of your stupid obsession over his one null post I will make sure you flip next Balkins
Solid logic here. I am concerned the exact appropriate amount.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:23 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
DemonRHK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:18 pm
I will not reveal tonight. If I die you’ll see it on flip, if I live to tomorrow, I’ll explain more.
I’m leaving the wifom strong for mafia. Am I a doc with a selfsave? Am I the obs with faith in my doc?
Come find out you fucks.
Impressive. I have a feeling you'll find a way to survive the night kill.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:23 pm
by Foxcastle
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:08 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:05 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:01 pm
##all gm - if observer observes someone who the driver then drives, what does the observer see
I think it's like this:
If observer checks out PERSON A
And Driver Drives (PERSON A, PERSON B)
Observer would see (everyone who visited PERSON B, everyone who PERSON B visited, and the driver would be included in everyone who visited PERSON B). In this scenario, Observer would not know for sure that they were seeing visits to and from PERSON A or PERSON B.
##CALL GM -- is that right?
Observer would be informed that they observed Person B, and would see all visits to and by Player B, including the driver.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:26 pm
by damo666
If the person with the box takes an item can they use it the same night or not until the following night.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:28 pm
by Squigs44
I think RHK should claim his role just before EoN
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:29 pm
by Squigs44
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:26 pm
If the person with the box takes an item can they use it the same night or not until the following night.
You get the item EoN
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:04 pm
by bozotheclown
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:11 pm
Observer should definitely be on DemonRHK tonight. If Observer dies, either we'll have a Doc CC or we won't. If Observer survives the night, then he'll either be able to out DemonRHK as scum, or he won't come forward.
I think this works, and if DemonRHK is a real PR, our other PR will not be revealed, whether DemonRHK survives or not. Also, if DemonRHK is a real PR and survives, his role would not be revealed, so if this is going to be the plan it would be better for him not to claim his role.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:15 pm
by bozotheclown
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:36 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:34 pm
Squigs44 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:28 pm
But then the observer will observe the doctor visiting, which would lead to a false read. If mafia wants me dead, the doctor can't stop that from happening.
Don't follow. Why a false read?
My point is observer will observe doctor.
So if rhk is doc, he will be observed and confirmed.
If rhk is observer, then we won't have an observer going to Squigs and not seeing rhk.
If they use the driver on you, both PR's end up on someone else and observer can still see who doc is.
Either way observer can confirm whether rhk is pr or not.
I think this works also, but I do not see any benefit over Balki's plan of having the observer just observe DemonRHK. Also, with Balki's plan the doctor is free to do what he wants.
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:19 pm
by bozotheclown
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:47 pm
Ignore demon rhk. Just go visit Squigs.
Who are you talking to here?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:24 pm
by Durga
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:15 pm
Durga wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:36 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:34 pm
Don't follow. Why a false read?
My point is observer will observe doctor.
So if rhk is doc, he will be observed and confirmed.
If rhk is observer, then we won't have an observer going to Squigs and not seeing rhk.
If they use the driver on you, both PR's end up on someone else and observer can still see who doc is.
Either way observer can confirm whether rhk is pr or not.
I think this works also, but I do not see any benefit over Balki's plan of having the observer just observe DemonRHK. Also, with Balki's plan the doctor is free to do what he wants.
Problem is if driver is in use you don't really know what's going on right?
Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:25 pm
by Durga
If rhk and doc visit Squigs and observer sees that and Squigs is obv alive then rhk gets cleared for a while.