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Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:09 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:09 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:59 pm
Durga is scum
That was because of you vote of Flash before I saw your switch to Ike.
Damo, what is your read of DemonRHK now?

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:10 pm
by DemonRHK
Shit, sorry Ike.

Ok, I tried to lay low and play low activity to slide through D1, and thought I’d be relatively safe from the NK after I ended up as a leading wagon repeatedly. I’m notorious for wary claiming my role under pressure and almost went too far the other way this time.

For obvious reasons I’m not going to say which role I am, to keep scum having to take a risk.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:11 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Observer should definitely be on DemonRHK tonight. If Observer dies, either we'll have a Doc CC or we won't. If Observer survives the night, then he'll either be able to out DemonRHK as scum, or he won't come forward.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:12 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
DemonRHK wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:10 pm
Shit, sorry Ike.

Ok, I tried to lay low and play low activity to slide through D1, and thought I’d be relatively safe from the NK after I ended up as a leading wagon repeatedly. I’m notorious for wary claiming my role under pressure and almost went too far the other way this time.

For obvious reasons I’m not going to say which role I am, to keep scum having to take a risk.
How does it help us for your role to be secret? Scum certainly have at least one driver action left. If you are a PR, either PR, won't they certainly kill you tonight?

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:13 pm
by Squigs44
So if Observer visits me tonight, then either mafia kills me, and the observer sees that, or the driver visits me, and the observer sees that, or I am still alive.

Doctor visiting me is probably pointless, since they can just drive me and someone else. Also, that could confuse the observer.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
by damo666
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:09 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:09 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:59 pm
Durga is scum
That was because of you vote of Flash before I saw your switch to Ike.
Damo, what is your read of DemonRHK now?
I dunno. I'm a bit of a state of shock. I'm gonna have to do a complete reread and rethink. This result looks bad for a whole host of people. Me included.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
by ghug
I find a claim that isn't a specific PR pretty uncompelling. This is one of those situations where we shouldn't discuss until morning, though.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:11 pm
Observer should definitely be on DemonRHK tonight. If Observer dies, either we'll have a Doc CC or we won't. If Observer survives the night, then he'll either be able to out DemonRHK as scum, or he won't come forward.
@DemonRHK, do you have the box? You should tell us this now, so we know how many visits you might possibly be making tonight.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
by Squigs44
So we are just assuming DemonRHK actually is a PR?

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:15 pm
by DemonRHK
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:11 pm
Observer should definitely be on DemonRHK tonight. If Observer dies, either we'll have a Doc CC or we won't. If Observer survives the night, then he'll either be able to out DemonRHK as scum, or he won't come forward.
@DemonRHK, do you have the box? You should tell us this now, so we know how many visits you might possibly be making tonight.
I do not have the box.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:17 pm
by damo666
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:11 pm
Observer should definitely be on DemonRHK tonight. If Observer dies, either we'll have a Doc CC or we won't. If Observer survives the night, then he'll either be able to out DemonRHK as scum, or he won't come forward.
@DemonRHK, do you have the box? You should tell us this now, so we know how many visits you might possibly be making tonight.
Highly suspicious line of questioning

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:17 pm
by ghug
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:14 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:11 pm
Observer should definitely be on DemonRHK tonight. If Observer dies, either we'll have a Doc CC or we won't. If Observer survives the night, then he'll either be able to out DemonRHK as scum, or he won't come forward.
@DemonRHK, do you have the box? You should tell us this now, so we know how many visits you might possibly be making tonight.
Wouldn't it have made far more sense to ask him to reveal that information at EoN?

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
Eh, I want to lock DemonRHK's story right now.

I believe he is the Driver.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:21 pm
by Squigs44
Person I passed the box to - I trust you to make a good decision. Taking from the box means the person you pass it to has a 1/3 chance of exploding. Listing means that the box will safely pass to the next person. The item you get could be extremely useful or woefully ineffective.
If you can somehow pass it to the driver and have it explode, that would be glorious.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:22 pm
by damo666
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 pm
Eh, I want to lock DemonRHK's story right now.

I believe he is the Driver.
Why?

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:24 pm
by Durga
Both doc and observed should visit Squigs.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:25 pm
by Durga
I switched to flash because I couldn't remember a time I thought rhk was actually scummy. And flash was jamiet.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:26 pm
by Squigs44
If RHK is a PR, scum know he is telling the truth. So revealing the specifics won't tell them all that much, and he is going to have to reveal the specifics at EoN anyway.

If RHK is not a PR, then we definitely want him to reveal specifics so we know he is lying. This info could be useful to our observer and doctor.

The problem lies in mafia targeting a counterclaim tonight, meaning that waiting until after EoN would be more beneficial.

It is a toss-up.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:26 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
If the real observer has a large set of information by now, he or she should think about putting it in a last-second EON post. We are getting close to the point where it may be worth it to make sure we get a chance to use all that info.

Obviously, if most of your results are about people who are no longer with us, or would just out the other PR, then it may be better to stay hidden. But we don't want to lose you without your info, if your info can clear townies or out scum.

Re: Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:28 pm
by Squigs44
Durga wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:24 pm
Both doc and observed should visit Squigs.
But then the observer will observe the doctor visiting, which would lead to a false read. If mafia wants me dead, the doctor can't stop that from happening.