MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

Hardclaim tracker

I saw rivera visit foxcastle

That would mean rivera is the roleblocker.

Unless Fox received an item as well as being roleblocked?

[Jamiet99uk]

Numbers correct, but not ranked in order because phone:

EP 6
Kalel 7
Temasek 3
Brainbomb 3
Dargorygel 2
Neph 4
Foodcoats 1
Sullit 1
Vapor 4
Kitsune 1
Rivera 1
Maniac 2
Yuuki 1


Feela like I have to shoot Neph here.

- Claims to be a top town read when four people have him as a top scumread.
- Lies about scumreading me (because he also tells me not to shoot him).

[xorxes]

wasnt gonna claim but if imma be shot I need ppl to know

Why were you softing item smith if you're the Tracker then?

[Jamiet99uk]

So actually:

Either Brainbomb and Foxcastle are both telling the truth and Rdrivera is proven scum

Or

Neph is scum and so is Brainbomb

Or

Neph and Rdrivera are scum and Brianbomb and Foxcastle are town.
..

[EspressoPatronum]

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I saw rivera visit foxcastle

##vote rivera

[BunnyGo]

So much so, that if we don't think Fox was a likely target of Ultron, and if Fox's ability is tracker, then we may want to consider asking Fox to confirm in this case and finger his target track...

All "roleblocked" means is that he was visited by the Roleblocker. The Roleblocker does not know if they had any actions to perform or not, and the person roleblocked is told they were roleblocked whether they had actions or not.

In other words, if Fox is telling the truth about being roleblocked, he can still be a VT or SK or PR. And mafia don't know what he is.

That's why claiming the roleblock is always the pro-town thing to do, Mafia already know who they roleblocked.

So no, you can't conclude anything about Fox's role just because he claimed that he was roleblocked, even if we believe the claim (which in principle there's no reason to doubt, although of course he is not in any way clear).

Thanks. That makes sense.

[damo666]

@Jamie NO. Read up.

[Nephthys]

Im out for a good portion of the day, crewing my mates in a triathlon.

Jamie, don't be stupid please

- Neph xx

You post to repeat your scumread on me.
Then you tell me "not to be stupid" as if you believe I really am the Vig.

Conclusion: Your scumread on me is FAKE.

EP asked for it.

I DO NOT think you are scum right now. You are an un-cced PR. As soon as Maniac took back his claim you weren't under suspicion anymore

[Foxcastle]

Hardclaim tracker

I saw rivera visit foxcastle

##vote rivera

Check your vote, I don't think this is valid.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Neph, have you talked about your Jamie read? Can you walk me through why you voted for him?

Apologies if I've missed it already.

Looking back, I dislike Jamie's vote and voting logic.

He literally stated that ND was different. That's it. He specifically stated that ND was also NOT in his scum meta which should render the change NAI. Yet he starts a wagon on it.

If we look at his only reads post

Bozo is listed ABOVE ND yet he never changes his vote or really mentions bozo further.

Why was Jamie scumreading bozo you ask? Good idea, because I cant tell. The only time he MENTIONS bozo is to ask him to drop the survey. This is lhf to the max


Conclusion: Jamie's votes and scum reads do not add up. His reasoning to scumread ND was also deplorably weak.

##vote jamie

But what about his vig claim?

[xorxes]

That's a pretty open and shut case then.

Yup. Hurry up Jamie.

Trying to make Jamie rush is scummy as hell.

[rdrivera2005]

will only accept a scumlean on me if I'm paired up with rivera

I really wish I am in a scumteam with you someday Vapor. Even better if it also includes Vecna.

[EspressoPatronum]

Im out for a good portion of the day, crewing my mates in a triathlon.

Jamie, don't be stupid please

- Neph xx

You post to repeat your scumread on me.
Then you tell me "not to be stupid" as if you believe I really am the Vig.

Conclusion: Your scumread on me is FAKE.

EP asked for it.

I DO NOT think you are scum right now. You are an un-cced PR. As soon as Maniac took back his claim you weren't under suspicion anymore

Disregard my above post asking about the vig claim.

[EspressoPatronum]

Hardclaim tracker

I saw rivera visit foxcastle

##vote rivera

Check your vote, I don't think this is valid.

Thanks.

##vote rdr

[Jamiet99uk]

wasnt gonna claim but if imma be shot I need ppl to know

WHY did you think I was going to shoot you when:

1. I was actively talking about why I was about to shoot Neph,

2. You weren't one of the top 2 or 3 in my survey.

This feels like a crazy paranoid Brainbomb fakeclaim. You fakeclaim in nearly every game.

[Nephthys]

hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit

My case on jamie was when he WASN'T clear/there was a CC

Now there is no CC

I do no longer think Jamie is scum

FFS people

[Chaqa]

My scumreads:
Neph, Kalel, Vapor, Rdr, Yuuki

Shot Targets:
Vapor - I'm still getting vibes that he's playing way different than before. His fake news case on me looks pretty scummy, and I dislike his progression on his Brainbomb read.

Kalel - his entrance and D1 play was scummy. His play in D2 seems more measured. Looks like the scum team coached him to take it easy.

Neph - his Jamiet read was bad.


Lynch Targets
Rdr - he's been very low activity this game. He's either scum trying to lurk or just not into this game. If we make him a wagon, he'll probably start weighing in + we can sort him better.

Yuuki - his town play is very involved and analytical, but he's way different this game. As above with rdr, he's either lurking to stay under the radar, or he's not a motivated town. A Yuuki wagon will help solve both.

WHY WOULD YOUR SHOT AND LYNCH TARGETS BE DIFFERENT

THIS IS SCUMMY

[foodcoats]

Hardclaim tracker

I saw rivera visit foxcastle

That would mean rivera is the roleblocker.

Unless Fox received an item as well as being roleblocked?

Ah... So if the item smith delivers an item, that's a visit. That's interesting.

But yeah it seems unlikely Fox would be the one given the item anyway.

[EspressoPatronum]

My scumreads:
Neph, Kalel, Vapor, Rdr, Yuuki

Shot Targets:
Vapor - I'm still getting vibes that he's playing way different than before. His fake news case on me looks pretty scummy, and I dislike his progression on his Brainbomb read.

Kalel - his entrance and D1 play was scummy. His play in D2 seems more measured. Looks like the scum team coached him to take it easy.

Neph - his Jamiet read was bad.


Lynch Targets
Rdr - he's been very low activity this game. He's either scum trying to lurk or just not into this game. If we make him a wagon, he'll probably start weighing in + we can sort him better.

Yuuki - his town play is very involved and analytical, but he's way different this game. As above with rdr, he's either lurking to stay under the radar, or he's not a motivated town. A Yuuki wagon will help solve both.

WHY WOULD YOUR SHOT AND LYNCH TARGETS BE DIFFERENT

THIS IS SCUMMY

I explained my reasoning in the post -- The more active people in my scum pool are better targets for the shot. The less active are better targets for the lynch.

I'll ofc update it after the shot.

[Nephthys]

Numbers correct, but not ranked in order because phone:

EP 6
Kalel 7
Temasek 3
Brainbomb 3
Dargorygel 2
Neph 4
Foodcoats 1
Sullit 1
Vapor 4
Kitsune 1
Rivera 1
Maniac 2
Yuuki 1


Feela like I have to shoot Neph here.

- Claims to be a top town read when four people have him as a top scumread.
- Lies about scumreading me (because he also tells me not to shoot him).

hmmm yes. Maths.