MINI MAFIA V GAME THREAD -- The House of Black and White

[e.m.c^42]

or, more precisely: not enough content from individual players T-T

[Percy Williams]

So sorry, I had unexpected tech problems and had no secondary way to access web dip. Everything should be good now.

[Squigs44]

##vote Percy

Please explain your no vote.
Also, I posted that you scum slipped and literally no one addressed it which I find very very odd.

[e.m.c^42]

##vote Percy

Please explain your no vote.
Also, I posted that you scum slipped and literally no one addressed it which I find very very odd.

didn't say anything about it since I couldn't find what exactly you were referring to :P

[Percy Williams]

I like Claesar's analysis stuff. Mafia is not just math, which he acknowledges... I still believe the D1/D2 double lynch is town's advantage here in this set up.

Two no votes?
That is gonna hurt.
Wake up, you two!!!!

I was awake.
Trust me guys, I hated it more than you as I banged my head against a blank screen.

[Squigs44]

A Ryast emc team would be interesting. Tempted to vote Ryast here.

[Percy Williams]

##vote Percy

Please explain your no vote.
Also, I posted that you scum slipped and literally no one addressed it which I find very very odd.

I didn't vote because I was going to vote towards eod, so that there would be some actual posts to go off of, but at Eod I was home and ready to catch some scum, when There was no battery, and it took me four hours to fix it. I'm as angry as y'all, if not MORE frustrated and angry. Everything should be fixed at this point, so I'll be voting every phase like normal.

(Thanks for not instantly modkilling me Brainbomb)

[e.m.c^42]

##vote Percy

Please explain your no vote.
Also, I posted that you scum slipped and literally no one addressed it which I find very very odd.

I didn't vote because I was going to vote towards eod, so that there would be some actual posts to go off of, but at Eod I was home and ready to catch some scum, when There was no battery, and it took me four hours to fix it. I'm as angry as y'all, if not MORE frustrated and angry. Everything should be fixed at this point, so I'll be voting every phase like normal.

(Thanks for not instantly modkilling me Brainbomb)

am curious. Who would've you voted for?

[Percy Williams]

Subject: Squiggs44 is scum.
Details: I believe that Squiggs is one of the mafia, he has been unnecessarily agressive against players, without any Evidence, and hasn't used his own format that he claims should be used in constructive posts, ergo, he has no constructive posts
Evidence:
For this special Squiggs mccase, I'm considering This to be his first post with any actual content, so all analysis is from then on:

Vibes:

Town - Ike, emc, MF
Scum - Jamie, darg

Once he's back from McDonald's, he claims I made a scum slip, with no explanation on what it was:

Dang. I leave to get a burger and missed catching Percy scum slip.

##vote Percy.

Then he asks me what my read on Moscow is:

Hey Percy, what's your read on Moscow?

And at This point Moscow has only posted a few times, but they seem generally towny ( No hard evidence here just gut feelings) so I say as much (and If you look at the first point I'm counting, Squirts agrees with This conclusion):

There's obviously not a lot to go off of, but he seems town so far.

He questions my read, and I explain there's not a ton of content so it is mostly vibes, since I wanted to respond to his question about how I read Moscow.

Why is he town?

Gut feeling and his openness on caring most about Hockey right now. (Totally respect that by the way Moscow)

Geez though, He's had like two messages sent up to that point, what do you want?

You had a post where you hard assumed he was town. I'm trying to figure out why

He then claims I hard town read Moscow, which I never did.
He also attacks Emc for bad posts:

Emc can you do me a favor and write at least one post this game that is:

• Clear and concise
  Relates to solving the game
  Provides an original idea
  Doesn't apologize, hedge, or otherwise annoy me

Thanks in advance

And then gets angry when EMC tries to clarify what his posts were ( I won't quote this one, we should all remember it.)
As far as Squiggs not posting in his format, his extra note also said to take solid stances, which he has only sorta done against me, and with No evidence until arguably after my no vote, but it doesn't help me on either side to no vote, because No voting draws so much suspicion, and I would be able to impede so much better with a well placed vote.


For these reasons, I
##VOTE Sguiggs44

[Percy Williams]

##vote Percy

Please explain your no vote.
Also, I posted that you scum slipped and literally no one addressed it which I find very very odd.

I didn't vote because I was going to vote towards eod, so that there would be some actual posts to go off of, but at Eod I was home and ready to catch some scum, when There was no battery, and it took me four hours to fix it. I'm as angry as y'all, if not MORE frustrated and angry. Everything should be fixed at this point, so I'll be voting every phase like normal.

(Thanks for not instantly modkilling me Brainbomb)

am curious. Who would've you voted for?

Probably Jamiet or Squiggs.

[RagingIke297]

Subject: Squiggs44 is scum.
Details: I believe that Squiggs is one of the mafia, he has been unnecessarily agressive against players, without any Evidence, and hasn't used his own format that he claims should be used in constructive posts, ergo, he has no constructive posts
Evidence:
For this special Squiggs mccase, I'm considering This to be his first post with any actual content, so all analysis is from then on:

Vibes:

Town - Ike, emc, MF
Scum - Jamie, darg

Once he's back from McDonald's, he claims I made a scum slip, with no explanation on what it was:

Dang. I leave to get a burger and missed catching Percy scum slip.

##vote Percy.

Then he asks me what my read on Moscow is:

Hey Percy, what's your read on Moscow?

And at This point Moscow has only posted a few times, but they seem generally towny ( No hard evidence here just gut feelings) so I say as much (and If you look at the first point I'm counting, Squirts agrees with This conclusion):

There's obviously not a lot to go off of, but he seems town so far.

He questions my read, and I explain there's not a ton of content so it is mostly vibes, since I wanted to respond to his question about how I read Moscow.

Gut feeling and his openness on caring most about Hockey right now. (Totally respect that by the way Moscow)

Geez though, He's had like two messages sent up to that point, what do you want?

You had a post where you hard assumed he was town. I'm trying to figure out why

He then claims I hard town read Moscow, which I never did.
He also attacks Emc for bad posts:

Emc can you do me a favor and write at least one post this game that is:

• Clear and concise
  Relates to solving the game
  Provides an original idea
  Doesn't apologize, hedge, or otherwise annoy me

Thanks in advance

And then gets angry when EMC tries to clarify what his posts were ( I won't quote this one, we should all remember it.)
As far as Squiggs not posting in his format, his extra note also said to take solid stances, which he has only sorta done against me, and with No evidence until arguably after my no vote, but it doesn't help me on either side to no vote, because No voting draws so much suspicion, and I would be able to impede so much better with a well placed vote.


For these reasons, I
##VOTE Sguiggs44

I'll buy that ##vote Squiggs

[Claesar]

Once he's back from McDonald's, he claims I made a scum slip, with no explanation on what it was:

Dang. I leave to get a burger and missed catching Percy scum slip.

##vote Percy.

While I voted on Squigs D1, I don't think this is entirely fair. The scumread was by Vapourwave and acknowledged by Squigs. They referred to post#95, so it was explained. In a way. Because I don't see it.

[Percy Williams]

Once he's back from McDonald's, he claims I made a scum slip, with no explanation on what it was:

Dang. I leave to get a burger and missed catching Percy scum slip.

##vote Percy.

While I voted on Squigs D1, I don't think this is entirely fair. The scumread was by Vapourwave and acknowledged by Squigs. They referred to post#95, so it was explained. In a way. Because I don't see it.

I understand what you're saying, and I hadn't connected that before, but how was post 95 a scumslip? I was simply reading on Jamiets first content post. I would think even if that was his connection, and it was justified, Squiggs could be a lot clearer on what he meant, especially with the shade he was throwing out on EMC for not being clear And concise. And I don't think that would completely collapse my case regardless of whether you count that specific point or not.

[Squigs44]

Finally, after I bring up the fact no one talked about this, someone decides to talk about this.

##VOTE MOSCOWFLEET

This setup enables low posting.

Town has no powers.

Therefore town should seek to policy lynch anyone who doesn't post regularly.

MoscowFleet is a perennial low-participant. So we lynch him until he changes his stripes and takes part.

Done.

Wow, going straight for baptism by fire!
This is Jamiets style, but could also be a way for him to eliminate town in our lynches, since Mafia really needs to stall for time in this setup so they get their NK power.

This is where you assume Moscow is town.

[Squigs44]

And then gets angry when EMC tries to clarify what his posts were ( I won't quote this one, we should all remember it.)

I was townreading emc all yesterday. I was never angry at emc, I'm just trying to understand him better.

[Squigs44]

Percy, I think you are falling into a trap a lot of newer players fall into called OMGUS. You really think out of all players that I am the one who has posted no reasoning, been unclear, and not taken strong stances? Take a step back and look at the whole game please.

[Claesar]

This is where you assume Moscow is town.

Yes, he's suggesting that Jamie might be scum trying to kill town. If he's right, MF is likely town.

But he wasn't, so..

[Squigs44]

I really do appreciate the effort though Percy. I feel like you made yourself very clear. Its enough for me to ##vote Ryast

[Squigs44]

I do have to ask though Percy, why did you just now decide to bring this up? You posted several times after I made that initial post, yet you didn't respond to it once.

[Percy Williams]

Percy, I think you are falling into a trap a lot of newer players fall into called OMGUS. You really think out of all players that I am the one who has posted no reasoning, been unclear, and not taken strong stances? Take a step back and look at the whole game please.

No, I was suspicious anyways. Objectively looking at your interactions was why I thought you were Mafia. And I'm not suggesting everyone else is as clean as wool well washed, but I am very concerned about your behaivors, and think they indicate scum. I don't actually blame you for your vote on me at all, you didn't do that until after I was a no vote, but I was planning on making this post a lot earlier in day one, but life got in the way.