Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[RagingIke297]

@Ike - damo has been townreading Demon all but one page. The switch to scumreading him was justified. The switch back I didn't see a reason at the time, but in subsequent posts he explained it.

What is this then?

Fwiw here are my updated reads, three groups: Town Town/? ?
No scumreads as such yet.
No ordrering within groups.

TOWN
Balki
Bozo
Bo
DemonRHK
ghug
worcej
Xorxes

Town/?

Durga
Flash
ND
Peter
RagingIke
rdrivera
Yav

?

DrCJG
Squigs
Szpoti
Vecna

Clearly at least 1 of the Town/? is scum (assuming my Town are town).

Looking at the end voters on thdfrance we know Tom was town, I'm pretty hot on Balki, ghug, worcej as town and Demon probably so which leaves Vecna, RagingIke, Flash & DrCJG probably containing at least 2 scum.

Assuming the thdfrance push was to protect another wagon this leaves DemonRHK & RagingIke as containing at least 1 scum. As I townlrean more on Demon

##Vote RagingIke

I would also be happy to vote Flash, Vecna or DrCJG if Ike does not become a viable wagon.

He put Demon as town and at the bottom again says Demon is probably town. What am I looking for?

He says right there

this leaves DemonRHK & RagingIke as containing at least 1 scum

that seems like a scum read on RHK to me

[damo666]

@Bo, please vote DemonRHK.

Balki shut up. DemonRHK is town.

So according to your post a few posts ago, I MUST be scum right?

GIVEN the assumption discussed, yes.

[Squigs44]

@Balki - is damo scum protected by ghug, or just demon?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Bo, please vote DemonRHK.

Balki shut up. DemonRHK is town.

This does not convince me. You’re going to have to reason with me.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Balki - is damo scum protected by ghug, or just demon?

@squigs, I’m really not sure. My town read on Damo has slipped a bit, but I’m not ready to go there yet. We can only flip them one at a time anyway, so we don’t have to solve the whole thing.

[RagingIke297]

Balki shut up. DemonRHK is town.

So according to your post a few posts ago, I MUST be scum right?

GIVEN the assumption discussed, yes.

So if I get lynched today and flip town then what would happen? You turn on RHK and lead his wagon?

[Squigs44]

Let A = DemonRHK is scum
Let B = Ike is scum

Damo asserts (A or B)
The next sentence he asserts !B
He concludes (A or B) and (!B) = A

Nowhere does he assert B

[DemonRHK]

Balki, do you plan on addressing what I posted or do you plan to jam your fingers in your ears and ignoring me until you can force the lynch through?

[Squigs44]

@Balki - is damo scum protected by ghug, or just demon?

@squigs, I’m really not sure. My town read on Damo has slipped a bit, but I’m not ready to go there yet. We can only flip them one at a time anyway, so we don’t have to solve the whole thing.

I might have only one more flip, and my skills in mafia are limited to end game full solves. I'm trying my best to use my skills before I go. Im thinking through every possibility.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@ghug, don’t you want to see DemonRHK flip? Let’s see if there was a motivation for the Peter and Thdfrance wagons. Hell, maybe I am scum and I drove those wagons to protect driver. Aren’t you suspicious of that?

[Squigs44]

Let A = DemonRHK is scum
Let B = Ike is scum

Damo asserts (A or B)
The next sentence he asserts !B
He concludes (A or B) and (!B) = A

Nowhere does he assert B

Sorry, my A and B got mixed up

[damo666]

FFS Ike misrepresenting again.

I said that demonRHK and you MUST contain at least 1 scum GIVEN THE ASSUMPTION that the thdfrance was to protect another wagon in danger.

Then as I was townreading demonRHK I voted you.

This is NOT scumreading demonRHK in any way shape or form.

I could have added myself to the list but didn't bother as I know I wasn't being protected. Had I have said

GIVEN ..... at least one of demonRHK, IKe and me must be scum would I be scumreading myself??????

[Balki Bartokomous]

Balki, do you plan on addressing what I posted or do you plan to jam your fingers in your ears and ignoring me until you can force the lynch through?

Sorry, I’m on my phone. What did you post? Can you say it again?

[DemonRHK]

Was literally on the last page...

Damo has been defensive and on the back foot since his wagon started after his Yavu vote on day 1. Even on a reread of his day 1, he’s not really atacking hard, accepting his fate. Scum wouldn’t do that (or shouldn’t of they’re any kind of decent). He’s been railroaded day 1 and day 2 and safe money says he will continue to be railroaded until he flips and gets the treatment that it’s his fault. Quite honestly it’s hauntingly similar to my first game we’re I swung day one over someone that hard claimed scum.

As far as Szpoti, I was taken in by his fancy use of words and how he went from ‘I know nothing therefore I no lynch’ to trying to develop reads. Not long after that comment though, he disappeared like a fart in the wind. The slot was scum and I keep my track record of reading like shit through the last like three games.

Balki’s reads have not evolved at all. He’s tunneled damo and myself to shit, it’s now day 4 and he’s tantruming like a child who’s mommy didn’t buy him a toy.

He’s had strange interactions with Ike since day 1, both the ‘no talking about the box/hey Ike let’s talk box’ and onward. To be honest, I haven’t been on the recieving end of Balki to know if him hypertunneling is in his townie nature or scum trying to push through the last few mislynches they need.

##Vote Ike. For someone that was so obsessed with the box early, he’s not made any mention of it since the chain of event regarding it went public. It also looks like he’s trying to buddy Balki to hell, pushing all the same wagons on even less cases.

Balki, if you do get your wish and finally get me lynched, please do a careful reread of Ike if you’re town, I think he’s trying to hide under your nose.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Damo, explain your town read of DemonRHK to me.

[damo666]

So according to your post a few posts ago, I MUST be scum right?

GIVEN the assumption discussed, yes.

So if I get lynched today and flip town then what would happen? You turn on RHK and lead his wagon?

Nope. I would conclude the thdfrance push was not a save but a town fuck up.

[damo666]

@Bo, please vote DemonRHK.

Balki shut up. DemonRHK is town.

This does not convince me. You’re going to have to reason with me.

My townread of him is similar to my townread of you.

Talking of my townread of you your urging of bo to switch to RHK looks like Ike protection. Has me a tad worried.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Was literally on the last page...

Damo has been defensive and on the back foot since his wagon started after his Yavu vote on day 1. Even on a reread of his day 1, he’s not really atacking hard, accepting his fate. Scum wouldn’t do that (or shouldn’t of they’re any kind of decent). He’s been railroaded day 1 and day 2 and safe money says he will continue to be railroaded until he flips and gets the treatment that it’s his fault. Quite honestly it’s hauntingly similar to my first game we’re I swung day one over someone that hard claimed scum.

As far as Szpoti, I was taken in by his fancy use of words and how he went from ‘I know nothing therefore I no lynch’ to trying to develop reads. Not long after that comment though, he disappeared like a fart in the wind. The slot was scum and I keep my track record of reading like shit through the last like three games.

Balki’s reads have not evolved at all. He’s tunneled damo and myself to shit, it’s now day 4 and he’s tantruming like a child who’s mommy didn’t buy him a toy.

He’s had strange interactions with Ike since day 1, both the ‘no talking about the box/hey Ike let’s talk box’ and onward. To be honest, I haven’t been on the recieving end of Balki to know if him hypertunneling is in his townie nature or scum trying to push through the last few mislynches they need.

##Vote Ike. For someone that was so obsessed with the box early, he’s not made any mention of it since the chain of event regarding it went public. It also looks like he’s trying to buddy Balki to hell, pushing all the same wagons on even less cases.

Balki, if you do get your wish and finally get me lynched, please do a careful reread of Ike if you’re town, I think he’s trying to hide under your nose.

Okay, I read that. Not sure what I’m supposed to respond to there. Certainly if you flip town, my current impression of the game is entirely wrong and I would need to start over.

[RagingIke297]

GIVEN the assumption discussed, yes.

So if I get lynched today and flip town then what would happen? You turn on RHK and lead his wagon?

Nope. I would conclude the thdfrance push was not a save but a town fuck up.

So I could be a scum save and if I'm not then RHK is clean and it's just a town mess up?

[bo_sox48]

@Bo, please vote DemonRHK.

Each of the primary wagons were tied at 4 when I made that post, so I didn't move. I have scumreads on flash and Ike and no read on RHK, so I am definitely not voting RHK over those other two simply because you ask politely. That said, as I mentioned, I have no strong feelings about RHK and won't be upset if he flips.

See you all on the other side.