Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:39 am
do people (bozo, damo) usually pay attention to the nk this much?
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congtown basicallyBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:47 pmWoah Woah woahdargorygel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:55 pmDid we get a clear answer from Eden about how many scum are here?
If not (which is what I think, although I might have missed it)
Some folk doing math on lylo assuming one number or the other might be worth a look.
Well what did Eden tell you was the number of scum? I'm sure he disclosed this to yiu right?
Is this a townslip? Or a fake townslip? Because it would have been told to you when you received the role pm.
Is dargo known for this meta wise @ everyone?
Wait a minute.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:48 am##VOTE Squigs
Beside the foodcoats NK, having the same POE (containing what I suspect to be primarily town) as ghug is suspicious.
Falsehood: I never said you "haven't not done anything" (nice double negative btw). I said what you'd done was awfully scummy, not that you didn't do anything.
If you act scummy on purpose you might get scumread. Surprise!
Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game (for the town majority) is to perform a detailed psychological assessment on Snowy and therefore arrive at a diagnosis which reveals the true underlying motivations of his apparently malign activities. The game is typically very active, and Snowy's arrogance knows few if any bounds, so the thread will get annoying quickly. However, it is essential to humour the demands of Snowy's vast ego, to play the game.snowy801 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:20 amBut like, and I would have hoped that this is obvious, if I really am scum why would I go out of my way to do this? Just to be able to say "too scummy to be scum?" Not a brilliant strategy is it. And if my goal was to be elusive about my reads to allow ambiguity to disconnect me from blame on my alleged miskill pushes, why wouldn't I go ahead and actually disconnect from my reads instead of just refusing to talk about it?
Is it too much to expect even the slightest two step thought process regarding how you go about scum reads? I mean apparently, but I don't really believe that this is beyond your capacity, you just need a guiding hand. If I wanted to lurk I would've actually done so instead of hanging around being obnoxious all day. In my own way that was my inciting actionable behavior under the constraints I was putting myself until the end of the day that I saw to be an unconscionably lazy and pathetic effort rise to the top.
If you cannot model an underlying motive for me to act this way and just think that everything I know about what behavior people find scummy flew straight out of my head and I was just being the most transparent scum on the planet then I will not accept blame for unnecessarily muddying the playing field
Yeah Bozo's participation has increased, but the quality of his output has not.
Didn't work out. Shame.
I agree but I think this could easily be townBozo. Defintely not AI.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:25 pmYeah Bozo's participation has increased, but the quality of his output has not.
I'm not buying the "Ghug posted a similar reads list to Squigs, so that means Squigs must be scum" argument at all.
HI G hug! You're one of the few people that scum reads Jamiet so far in this game. Any reason why you feel like he's scummy this game? Much appreciated it.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:15 amHe townreads me for questionable reasons and you call it distancing?
I'd like today to be between three of snowy/you/Jamie/bona/damo/celaph, and I'm content focusing on whichever of those are getting less attention for the time being.
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:26 amThat is a lot of players you are willing to get rid of today. Also, your list is very similar to Squigs (maybe suspiciously so):
HI snowy! You keep asking people why they don't scum read G hug but haven't explained this read so that we can also see it too. Once again asking you expand on this.snowy801 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:29 amWhy doesn't anyone scum read ghug
You know that's a bad sign right, everyone scum reads ghug when he's town
##vote DeathLlama
All I recall is foodcoats, which is a flimsy premise at bestbozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:37 amHave you read the reason I have given so far?snowy801 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:32 amWhat do you think are some other indication that Squigs is scum?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:31 am
I was suspicious of damo, but not as much now that ghug and Squigs are scum reading him.
You know it actively pisses me off that you're acting like I'm in need of saving and you're putting yourself in the judgment seat so you can later Nero thumbs up or down on meghug wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:40 am"omg guys my grandma is dead"snowy801 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:28 amMy one regret is that I genuinely planned on doing all this this morning and it is extremely unfortunate that so many unexpected potholes absolutely obliterated my schedule today
Also side note ghug's so full of shit saying apologetic lurker snowy is scum because a) entirely false and b) I'm not even lurking
He clearly just wants to wipe his nose without his hands
Few more long-ass posts and I'm drop it, but the fact is that you came out of your "I was trying to be scummy" and into "I can't post sorry guys". I expected the former but not the latter.
Bonatogether was a wagon when you first posted and voted for him, and I did not like the case you made on him later. Town players generally do not like getting voted either.Squigs44 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:56 amOr maybe those 5 people we listed were lead wagons day 1 because they have done the most scummy things, which would also explain why they are in our POEs.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:13 amI do not think ghug would deliberately make a similar post as Squigs if they are both mafia, but it could be the inadvertent result of plans they made N1.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:41 amI think this is scum bozo that has learned that we've got his meta. It's a smart observation (perhaps one that only bozo would pick up on) but the case does not demonstrate that the occurrence is more likely explained by scum!ghug or why scum!ghug would do that
Look at the players they scum read: you, me, snowy, damo, and celaph (ghug threw in Jamie as well). You ended D1 voting for snowy, I ended D1 voting for celaph, celaph was voting for you until switching to bo_sox in the last minute, damo ended D1 voting for you, snowy voted for you and damo during D1 (among others), and Jamie ended D1 voting for snowy. It would not be unreasonable for them to think they could keep the votes within this group and protect themselves. Also, they are both ignoring the bussing that would be required for all the mafia to come from this group.
You can look at this another way. You, me, snowy, celaph, and Squigs were all lead wagons or tied for lead wagon at some point in the last 10 hours of D1, so the scum suspects ghug and Squigs independently came up with were primarily those that had the most suspicion on them coming into D2 (excluding Squigs).
I've laid out cases on Bona and Celaph before they were major wagons. I laid out a case on Snowy that shows my progression in thought on him. You and damo I've been less organized, but I have given thoughts about where I stand with you throughout day 1 and today. If you think my reads are forced, disgenuine, or contradictory, please bring that up.
As far as bussing goes, I already laid out reasoning for how Snowy/damo would make a lot of sense as a scumpair. Snowy and Bona could also work with some bussing. You could be scum with damo, snowy, or Bona. Really the only pieces that don't fit nicely are a Bona/damo pair OR Celaph with yourself and probably Bona.