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And of course just one more role:

Serial Killer
You are the SERIAL KILLER. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night, you may visit another player and attempt to murder them by PM-ing your target to both GMs. If your visit is successful, you will kill them. You win when everyone except you is dead, or nothing can stop this from happening.
(INDEPENDENT, KILLING)

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:19 am

14. kgray - CONFIRMED
15. bozo - confirmed
16. Vecna - CONFIRMED

Is it ominous that bozo's confirmation doesn't match everyone else's?

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:00 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:19 am

14. kgray - CONFIRMED
15. bozo - confirmed
16. Vecna - CONFIRMED

Is it ominous that bozo's confirmation doesn't match everyone else's?

You're right! And look, he's got a "15" next to his name, which is totally unlike anyone else on the list. Nobody else has a "15" before their name. It must indicate something important about the cards I will draw for Bozo tomorrow. But what?

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:33 pm

Alien Vanillaizer
You are the ALIEN VANILLAIZER. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night you may target a player. If your visit is successful, from the end of the night, your target will lose any abilities, effectively turning them into a plain vanilla role. Any actions they take on the night you target them will still occur unless otherwise blocked.Your Alien team-mates are <NAME(S)> and you may communicate with them at NIGHT only in a QT, the link for which will be supplied when the game begins. You win when all non-Alien Factions are defeated, or nothing can stop this from happening. (MANIPULATIVE)

Just to make sure, the power disability is for the rest of the game?

Does this likewise occur to NK abilities (for example, if it hits the SK, would it cause SK to have autoloss?) If this hits someone with QT related ability, does it cut them out from QT as well? Does this eliminate passive abilities?

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:25 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:33 pm

Alien Vanillaizer
You are the ALIEN VANILLAIZER. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night you may target a player. If your visit is successful, from the end of the night, your target will lose any abilities, effectively turning them into a plain vanilla role. Any actions they take on the night you target them will still occur unless otherwise blocked. Your Alien team-mates are <NAME(S)> and you may communicate with them at NIGHT only in a QT, the link for which will be supplied when the game begins. You win when all non-Alien Factions are defeated, or nothing can stop this from happening. (MANIPULATIVE)

Just to make sure, the power disability is for the rest of the game?

Does this likewise occur to NK abilities (for example, if it hits the SK, would it cause SK to have autoloss?) If this hits someone with QT related ability, does it cut them out from QT as well? Does this eliminate passive abilities?

To answer your first question, yes.

To answer your second question in terms of killing roles, the Vanillaizer can remove the Vigilante's killing ability, and the Strongman's "strongman kill", but it cannot nullify factional kills. The Mafia NK, Alien one-time-only NK, and Serial Killer NK are all technically factional kills.

To answer your third question, QT access is not an "ability" in the sense of the Vanillaizer's role - because Mafia Goons are Vanilla yet they still have QT access.

To answer your fourth question, passive "abilities" can also be vanilla-ized, yes.

What happens if it hits one of the lover roles? Are they allowed to survive if the others die in that case?

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:04 pm

What happens if it hits one of the lover roles? Are they allowed to survive if the others die in that case?

That is a clever question. Lovers are Not Vanilla. Therefore, making them Vanilla causes them to stop having the "lover" effect. So, you're right, yes.

The interactions are crazy.
Does intercessor affect all investigative in game or just ones targeted on it?

Donny Dude wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:06 pm

The interactions are crazy.
Does intercessor affect all investigative in game or just ones targeted on it?

The Intercessor affects the ability of the target to vote the next day. The Intercessor has no specific effect on investigations. Did you mean to ask about the Psychotrooper? Assuming you did, while the Psychotrooper is alive (if there is one, of course), then all investigative results are interfered with. The Psychotrooper's action is passive, it does not target a specific player.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:38 pm

Donny Dude wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:06 pm

The interactions are crazy.
Does intercessor affect all investigative in game or just ones targeted on it?

The Intercessor affects the ability of the target to vote the next day. The Intercessor has no specific effect on investigations. Did you mean to ask about the Psychotrooper? Assuming you did, while the Psychotrooper is alive (if there is one, of course), then all investigative results are interfered with. The Psychotrooper's action is passive, it does not target a specific player.

I did mean psychotrooper thanks

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:26 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:04 pm

What happens if it hits one of the lover roles? Are they allowed to survive if the others die in that case?

That is a clever question. Lovers are Not Vanilla. Therefore, making them Vanilla causes them to stop having the "lover" effect. So, you're right, yes.

pssst... do not call Einstein 'clever.' If you do, it goes to their head and they start thinking things. They might actually PLAY mafia... this might have unintended consequences.

If we don't have a psychotrooper I will be very disappointed

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:31 pm

And of course just one more role:

Serial Killer
You are the SERIAL KILLER. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night, you may visit another player and attempt to murder them by PM-ing your target to both GMs. If your visit is successful, you will kill them. You win when everyone except you is dead, or nothing can stop this from happening.
(INDEPENDENT, KILLING)

What happens if the SK is vanilla-ized?

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:42 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:31 pm

And of course just one more role:

Serial Killer
You are the SERIAL KILLER. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night, you may visit another player and attempt to murder them by PM-ing your target to both GMs. If your visit is successful, you will kill them. You win when everyone except you is dead, or nothing can stop this from happening.
(INDEPENDENT, KILLING)

What happens if the SK is vanilla-ized?

Retracted. I read on

Fun interaction:

Psycho trooper in play.
Parrot hits the alien investigator.
If they see two “not aliens” they know there’s a psycho trooper and that they scanned an alien.
If they see “one alien, one not” they know parrot is in play. And their target isn’t an alien. But don’t know if psycho trooper in play.

What is interaction between probing, jailing, and role blocks?

Can an alien vanilla themselves?

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:40 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:26 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:04 pm

What happens if it hits one of the lover roles? Are they allowed to survive if the others die in that case?

That is a clever question. Lovers are Not Vanilla. Therefore, making them Vanilla causes them to stop having the "lover" effect. So, you're right, yes.

pssst... do not call Einstein 'clever.' If you do, it goes to their head and they start thinking things. They might actually PLAY mafia... this might have unintended consequences.

Lol I can't tell if I was just insulted or complimented, but thank you.

So just for complete clarity, the full deck of cards from which roles will be drawn tomorrow is:

Alien Bloodsucker
Alien Intercessor
Alien One-shot Mass Redirector
Alien Prober
Alien Psychotrooper
Alien Sympathiser
Alien Sympathiser
Alien Vanillaiser
Bulletproof Alien Lover
Bulletproof Townie
Clairvoyant
Conspiracy Theorist
Conspiracy Theorist
Cop
Coroner
Doctor
Enabler
Hider
Innocent Child
Jack of all Trades
Jailkeeper
Loud Doctor
Loud Voyeur
Lover
Lover
Lover
Macho Cop
Mafia Compulsive Hider
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Godfather
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Loud Role Cop
Mafia Lover
Mafia One-shot Governor
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Strongman
Mafia Tracker
Mafia Underdog
Mafia Underdog
Mason
Mason
Mason
Miller
One-shot Commuter
One-shot Governor
One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner
One-shot Vigilante
Parrot
Serial Killer
Tentacled Townie
Tracker
Vanilla Cop
Vanilla Cop
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vengeful Townie

What happens if tree stump is vanilla-ized?

If lover is treestumped, are all lovers tree stumps?